Experimental HondaJet Makes Public World Debut at EAA AirVenture 2005 (PR from Honda)

PR Newswire ^ | July 28, 2005

[snowsislander]

I had no idea that Honda was involved in aviation until I happened over this story from back at the end of July.

[PeteB570]

I went to the EAA fly-in sometime around 65/66 (?) with my grandfather. I think it was the year that it was in Rockford, Ill. He had a Benson Gyro-copter and loved to fly that thing.

For anybody who likes airplanes that is one trip you have to make.

[Mr. K]

I have owned nothing but Honda cars for the last 15 years because they were so well made. And I have done plenty of shopping around too.

My first Honda went 250,000 miles and still ran like new. And I never did anything to it but change the oil regularly.

My latest is a 4 door Civic that gets about 40 miles to the gallon- I fill it up once a month for less than $30

[investigateworld]

You guys want to round up the usual suspects? It would be fun to hear the comments on this baby.

[Proud2BeRight]

Hope some of the hon-duh faithful are in the US aircraft industry.

[Uncle Jaque]

We recently traded in a Ford Winstar for a Honda SRV, and love it!

This flying version is a pretty slick looking rig; there might be an increasing market for fast, smaller "general aviation" planes like this for people of means who might not be able to afford a Lear Jet but don't care for the anal exam every time they want to board a commercial flight.

Didn't Mitsubishi make the infamous "Zero" in WW-II?

I'd like to see someone come up with a moderized version of the German jet "Sparrow" (?) that they came up with late in the war; it was a sleek, hot little number that I bet a lot of civilian pilots / former Military JetJocks would have a ball with.
IIRC, it was about the same size as this Honda.

[Paleo Conservative]

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail not by posting to this thread.

[Loud Mime]

Good information here:

http://world.honda.com/news/2003/c031216_2.html

[Loud Mime]

---HondaJet's patented over-the-wing engine-mount configuration helps eliminate the need for a structure to mount the engines to the rear fuselage and, thus, maximizes the space in the fuselage. Further, by determining the optimal position for the engines, the over-the-wing mount actually reduces drag at high speed to improve fuel efficiency. ---

The engine mounts caught my eye. No doubt it makes the craft quieter, too.

[A.A. Cunningham]

The Germans tried that engine configuration back in the 60s.

[hattend]

I hope they bring it to the National Championship Air Races in Reno next month.

I don't see how the overwing mount of the engines is paptented...wasn't there was a bizjet/small airliner back in the 60's or 70's that had the same thing?

[hattend]

I knew I should have scrolled down further.

[snowsislander]

I don't see how the overwing mount of the engines is paptented...

I think the related patents might be these, which are more about how to design the mounting with respect to inviscid flow:

6,308,913

6,102,328

[Zuben Elgenubi]

The fuselage is a compact and lightweight unified carbon composite structure, and has the largest cabin in its class. The main wing, which features aluminum skin panels cut from single sheets of aluminium that provide a smoother surface than conventional wing configurations, along with Honda's proprietary turbulence-reducing laminar airfoil, work together to significantly improve aerodynamic performance. Additional drag-reducing technologies include the fuselage nose, which is designed to generate laminar flow. These features, in combination with Honda's fuel-efficient HF118 Turbofan Engine, provide fuel efficiency more than 40% better than conventional aircraft.

[Zuben Elgenubi]

Good catch. Here's another photo of the VFW-Fokker 614

[ajolympian2004]

I have owned nothing but Honda cars for the last 15 years because they were so well made. And I have done plenty of shopping around too. My first Honda went 250,000 miles and still ran like new. And I never did anything to it but change the oil regularly. My latest is a 4 door Civic that gets about 40 miles to the gallon- I fill it up once a month for less than $30

Ditto on my experience with Toyota. My 4Runner is still running like new the same as when I purchased it back in 2000, and now with 160,000+ miles. That vs. a previous 'Ford' where the transmission broke at 60,000 miles and that was without and hard driving at all.

[USNBandit]

Anybody have a cost comparison to the Eclipse jet?

[hattend]

I was commenting as to how Honda got a patent since it had been done before...I guess Fokker never applied for one.

I wasn't commenting about not understanding how it could be patented.

[Larry Lucido]

I'm sure it's fast and quiet, but you just can't beat the distinctive sound of a plane with a Harley engine from HogAir.

[snowsislander]

Anybody have a cost comparison to the Eclipse jet?

I found this Bloomberg article which quotes an Asahi article giving a price range for the HondaJet of 100 million yen to 300 million yen, or roughly $1 million to $3 million.