Nascar Nextel Cup Race - Sirius Satellite Radio at the Glen On NBC - Sun. August 14, 1 p.m.

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[SouthTexas]

new NASCAR, where contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on.

Sadly it's about like the rest of the world.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Did you not see the ping to his thread?

Huh?

[fideist]

And here I was still posting to the old thread.

RE: Glen

Single-file racing. Grumble, grumble, grumble. I hate it.

Two weeks until Bristol. Four weeks to Richmond. Seven weeks to 'Dega!!!

[WestCoastGal]

Hi I want to know we've gotcha on the ping list now.

I started this on the News page, but maybe because it's a day early or that we do chat a lot prior to the race the Mod put us over here. I actually posted early because we've had atrocious weather and I wanted to be sure to get it done while there was no lightning. I mean I love Nascar but I don't want to die from a lightning strike while FReeping.


On second thought there could be worse fates.

[WestCoastGal]

"Two weeks until Bristol. Four weeks to Richmond. Seven weeks to 'Dega!!!"

Mornin fideist, not too fast otherwise we're in off season again.
:(

[WestCoastGal]

From DW's column. It's very long since he's a wind bag. But I found the following paragraph the only part that says anything we might want to know.

"here are still some pretty big moves to be made among some pretty important stars. Two or three guys are waiting for the right time to have their own teams and not have to deal with the whims of owners."

FOX

[WestCoastGal]

Watkins Glen
by Cathy Varga- Guest Contributor
08/11/2005

The NASCAR Busch Series returns to The Glen this weekend after a four-year absence for the Zippo 200 at Watkins Glen International, a 2.45-mile road course with 11 turns in Watkins Glen, New York. It’s the second time the Busch teams will race at a road course in 2005, which is a series first. Race coverage begins Saturday at 2 pm.

The Busch series began competing at the Glen in 1991. Road course specialist Ron Fellows, who will pilot the No. 43 Bully Hill Vineyards Chevrolet in Saturday’s race, won three of the last four races here: 2001, 2000 and 1998. Among the field of 53 drivers entered in the 2005 event, Fellows joins a host other road course aces, including Scott Pruett, Boris Said, and Jorge Goeters, who won the pole at the other Busch Series road course race this year in Mexico City.

Other items to note heading into Saturday’s race:

- In addition to the road course “ringers,” there are a number of Nextel Cup regulars who are also entered into the race, including Brian Vickers, Kasey Kahne, Elliott Sadler, Jeff Burton, Tony Stewart, Ryan Newman, Carl Edwards, Jamie McMurray, Greg Biffle, Travis Kvapil, Joe Nemecheck, Robby Gordon, Dale Jarrett, and Michael Waltrip.

[WestCoastGal]

Oops the link for the Busch race story. CATCHFENCE

[Fierce Allegiance]

Thanks for hosting this weeks thread.

Even though I managed to pick the winner for last week, the rest of my FFRL picks were crap. Unnngh.

Oh well, at least Tubebender & Glock haven't passed me yet. I usually do best when I'm on vacation and let my picks roll.

[Fierce Allegiance]

I am not a big fan of road couarse racing. I think they could spice it up a bit by making the track variable throughout the race. Some times there is a chicane, sometimes not. Sometimes there is a 180 degree turn, othertimes you have a short straight at that spot before the next turn.

I know, it will never happen, and it's a kind of like Saturday Night at a quarter-mile figure 8 track, but at least it would make the road racing less of a line-'em-up affair.

[WestCoastGal]

This is an interesting take on things........



August 11, 2005

Doh! Busch’s Defection is All About Toyota
By Allison Wagda

I just figured it out. Toyota is going with Penske in '07. Or
maybe even next year.

That’s why Kurt Busch stabbed his car owner and
acknowledged mentor in the back. That has to be it.

Why else would any driver in their right mind, loyalty aside, toss away what is
arguably one of the best rides in all of NASCAR?

At Roush, he has the equipment. He has the support of his owner. He has Jimmy
Fenig (at least for now). He has a score of teammates who let him lead laps for
bonus points when they are faster. Even his sponsors, for some inexplicable reason,
seem to like him.

Enter Toyota, stage left.

Now, it isn’t that much of a revelation that Penske could be, and even likely would be,
one of the teams Toyota would use to launch itself into the NASCAR stratosphere.
Penske races Toyota in the IRL. But this latest news from Kurt Busch absolutely
confirms it, in my opinion.

It’s the only thing that makes sense. Toyota’s arrival is imminent, perhaps even in
2006 (remember, when Brian France spoke with the media in June, he refused to
say that Toyota couldn’t join in 2006 even if they missed the July 1st deadline).

Toyota’s corporate group is very savvy about the racing world – at least in the racing
world outside of American stock cars. And they know that champions sell products.
As with any sports sponsorship, sponsoring a champion usually adds cache to your
product. People usually like to root for winners. Although a Chase title doesn’t exactly
equate to a winning season or huge numbers of adoring fans…but I digress.

In NASCAR, there are few past champions to choose from. Tony Stewart? Firmly
ensconced at JGR and already probably has more money than money could buy.
Plus, he’s a guy who moved back to his childhood home recently. Not even just his
hometown mind you, but actually into his old modest home. That’s a man who is not
(at least these days) for sale.

Kenseth? Not a contender right now (emphasis on right now) mired back in 15th in
the standings, and is perhaps too staid for Toyota’s taste. Gordon? Unless
Childress can be bought into the Toyota camp, I don’t see Gordon driving a Celica or
whatever Toyota hopes to race. His business interests are too closely tied to RCR.

And the only person without a title who could make Toyota salivate would be Dale Jr,
and he’s not going to go to Penske. RCR maybe someday, but not Penske and not
Miller Lite. Not to say DEI won’t make the switch to Toyota but that’s another story for
another day.

There's more..BACKSEAT BLONDE

[steveegg]

Sirius at the Glen (Cup) entry list -

Car	Driver	Hometown	Make	Sponsor	Owner
0	Mike Bliss	Milwaukie, OR	Chevrolet	NetZero Best Buy	Gene Haas
1	Paul Menard**	Eau Claire, WI	Chevrolet	Kraft/Ritz	Teresa Earnhardt
01	Joe Nemechek	Lakeland, FL	Chevrolet	U.S. Army	Nelson Bowers
2	Rusty Wallace	St. Louis, MO	Dodge	Sirius/Miller Lite	Roger Penske
4	P.J. Jones**	Torrance, CA	Chevrolet	Lucas Oil Products	Larry McClure
5	Kyle Busch*	Las Vegas, NV	Chevrolet	Kellogg's	Rick Hendrick
6	Mark Martin	Batesville, AR	Ford	Viagra	Jack Roush
7	Robby Gordon**	Orange, CA	Chevrolet	Jim Beam	James Smith
07	Dave Blaney	Hartford, OH	Chevrolet	Jack Daniel's	Richard Childress
8	Dale Earnhardt Jr.	Kannapolis, NC	Chevrolet	Budweiser	Teresa Earnhardt
9	Kasey Kahne	Enumclaw, WA	Dodge	Dodge Dealers/UAW	Ray Evernham
10	Scott Riggs	Bahama, NC	Chevrolet	Valvoline	James Rocco
11	Terry Labonte	Corpus Christi, TX	Chevrolet	FedEx/Kinko's	J D Gibbs
12	Ryan Newman	South Bend, IN	Dodge	ALLTEL	Roger Penske
15	Michael Waltrip	Owensboro, KY	Chevrolet	NAPA Auto Parts	Teresa Earnhardt
16	Greg Biffle	Vancouver, WA	Ford	National Guard/Subway	Geoff Smith
17	Matt Kenseth	Cambridge, WI	Ford	DeWalt Power Tools	Mark Martin
18	Bobby Labonte	Corpus Christi, TX	Chevrolet	Interstate Batteries	Joe Gibbs
19	Jeremy Mayfield	Owensboro, KY	Dodge	Dodge Dealers/UAW	Ray Evernham
20	Tony Stewart	Rushville, IN	Chevrolet	The Home Depot	Joe Gibbs
21	Ricky Rudd	Chesapeake, VA	Ford	Motorcraft Genuine Parts	Glen Wood
22	Scott Wimmer	Wausau, WI	Dodge	Caterpillar	Bill Davis
24	Jeff Gordon	Pittsboro, IN	Chevrolet	DuPont	Rick Hendrick
25	Brian Vickers	Thomasville, NC	Chevrolet	GMAC/ditech.com	Mary Hendrick
27	Kirk Shelmerdine**	Winston-Salem, NC	Ford	Freddie B's	Kirk Shelmerdine
29	Kevin Harvick	Bakersfield, CA	Chevrolet	GM Goodwrench	Richard Childress
31	Jeff Burton	South Boston, VA	Chevrolet	Cingular Wireless	Richard Childress
32	Ron Fellows**	Mississauga, Ontario	Chevrolet	Tide	Calvin Wells, III
37	Kevin Lepage**	Shelburne, VT	Dodge	Patron Tequila/BoSPOKER.net	John Carter
38	Elliott Sadler	Emporia, VA	Ford	M&M's	Robert Yates
39	Scott Pruett**	Sacramento, CA	Dodge	Target	Floyd Ganassi
40	Sterling Marlin	Columbia, TN	Dodge	Coors Light	Felix Sabates
41	Casey Mears	Bakersfield, CA	Dodge	Target	Chip Ganassi
42	Jamie McMurray	Joplin, MO	Dodge	Home123 Corp.	Floyd Ganassi
43	Jeff Green	Owensboro, KY	Dodge	Cheerios/Betty Crocker	Richard L Petty
45	Kyle Petty	Randleman, NC	Dodge	Georgia-Pacific/Brawny	Kyle Petty
48	Jimmie Johnson	El Cajon, CA	Chevrolet	Lowe's	Jeff Gordon
49	Ken Schrader	Fenton, MO	Dodge	Schwan's Home Service	Elizabeth Morgenthau
50	Jorge Goeters**	San Luis Potosi, Mexico	Dodge	Arnold Development Companies	Don Arnold
77	Travis Kvapil*	Janesville, WI	Dodge	Kodak/Jasper Engines	Douglas Bawel
88	Dale Jarrett	Hickory, NC	Ford	UPS	Robert Yates
89	Morgan Shepherd**	Conover, NC	Dodge	Victory In Jesus	Cindy Shepherd
97	Kurt Busch	Las Vegas, NV	Ford	IRWIN Industrial Tools	Georgetta Roush
99	Carl Edwards	Columbia, MO	Ford	Office Depot	Jack Roush
136	Boris Said***	Carlsbad, CA	Chevrolet	CENTRIX Financial	Bob Sutton
152	Jose Luis Ramirez**	Mexico City, Mexico	Dodge	Pro30.com	Rick Ware
187	Chris Cook**	Montello, WI	Chevrolet	christinemariemotorsports.com	Andrea Nemechek
192	Johnny Miller**	Johnson City, TN	Chevrolet	Oak Glove Co.	Bob Jenkins

* Denotes Rookie
** Denotes driver/team not in the top 35 in owners' points, must qualify on time (top 8 of 13; 8th-fastest will start 43rd)

[tubebender]

It's tough to keep up the good cheer when there are two teams ahead of me and nine behind that have resumed room temperature...

[Fierce Allegiance]

At this point last year, we had a lot more dropouts.

[steveegg]

Zippo 200 (Busch) entry list -

Car	Driver	Hometown	Make	Sponsor	Owner
0	Joe Fox**	Charlotte, NC	Chevrolet	RaceGirl/Family Dollar	Johnny Davis
1	Johnny Sauter	Necedah, WI	Dodge	Yellow Transportation	James Finch
2	Clint Bowyer	Emporia, KS	Chevrolet	ACDelco	Richard Childress
4	Scott Pruett	Sacramento, CA	Dodge	GEICO	Fred Biagi
5	Brian Vickers	Thomasville, NC	Chevrolet	Lowe's/Briggs & Stratton	Rick Hendrick
6	Kasey Kahne	Enumclaw, WA	Dodge	Hellmann's Mayonnaise	Ray Evernham
7	Chris Cook**	Montello, WI	Chevrolet	Tradeportal	Andrea Nemechek
8	Martin Truex Jr.	Mayetta, NJ	Chevrolet	Bass Pro Shops/Tracker	Teresa Earnhardt
10	Brent Sherman*	Chicago, IL	Ford	Consort Hair Care for Men	Gregory Pollex
11	Paul Menard	Eau Claire, WI	Chevrolet	Menards	Teresa Earnhardt
12	Paul Wolfe*	Milford, NY	Dodge	Hot Tamales	Mimi Fitz
14	David Stremme	South Bend, IN	Dodge	Navy "Accelerate Your Life"	Terry Bradshaw
18	J.J. Yeley	Phoenix, AZ	Chevrolet	Vigoro/The Home Depot	Joe Gibbs
20	Denny Hamlin*	Chesterfield, VA	Chevrolet	Rockwell Automation	Joe Gibbs
21	Jeff Burton	South Boston, VA	Chevrolet	Reese's	Richard Childress
22	Kenny Wallace	St. Louis, MO	Ford	AutoZone	Gregory Pollex
23	Mark Green**	Owensboro, KY	Chevrolet	BMAR Support Our Troops	Keith Coleman
25	Ashton Lewis	Chesapeake, VA	Ford	U.S. Marines	Ed Rensi
26	Kim Crosby*/**	Slidell, LA	Chevrolet	Vassarette	Keith Coleman
27	David Green	Owensboro, KY	Ford	Kleenex	Tammy Brewer
32	Jorge Goeters	San Luis Potosi, Mexico	Chevrolet	Scotiabank Inverlat/Canel's	Todd Braun
33	Tony Stewart	Rushville, IN	Chevrolet	Old Spice	DeLana Harvick
34	Randy LaJoie	South Norwalk, CT	Chevrolet	Dollar General	Frank Cicci
35	Jason Keller	Greenville, SC	Ford	McDonald's	Sam Rensi
36	Stanton Barrett	Bishop, CA	Chevrolet	DCT Motorsports	John McGill
38	Tyler Walker*	Tulsa, OK	Dodge	Great Clips	Brad Akins
40	Carlos Contreras	Mexico City, Mexico	Dodge	Goulds Pumps	Armando Fitz
41	Reed Sorenson*	Peachtree City, GA	Dodge	Home123 Corp.	Chip Ganassi
44	Justin Labonte	Thomasville, NC	Chevrolet	U.S. Coast Guard	Terry Labonte
47	Jon Wood*	Stuart, VA	Ford	Clorox/Wisk	Jodi Geschickter
49	Steve Grissom**	Gadsden, AL	Ford	Advil Liqui-Gels	Jay Robinson
52	Scott Turner**	Merritt Island, FL	Ford	Makoto Dressing	Jimmy Means
58	Regan Smith**	Cato, NY	Dodge	Glynn Motorsports	Scott Glynn
59	Stacy Compton	Grit, VA	Ford	Kingsford/Bush's Beans	Tad Geschickter
60	Carl Edwards*	Columbia, MO	Ford	Charter Communications	Jack Roush
64	Jamie McMurray	Joplin, MO	Dodge	Top-Flite Golf	Rusty Wallace
66	Greg Biffle	Vancouver, WA	Ford	Dial/Renuzit	Clarence Brewer
72	Dale Quarterley**	Westfield, MA	Chevrolet	MacDonald Motorsports	Pat MacDonald
87	Joe Nemechek**	Lakeland, FL	Chevrolet	Cellular One	Andrea Nemechek
90	Dale Jarrett**	Hickory, NC	Ford	CITI Financial	Robert Yates
99	Michael Waltrip**	Owensboro, KY	Chevrolet	Best Western	Elizabeth Waltrip
108	Elliott Sadler**	Emporia, VA	Ford	UPS/M&M's/CITI Financial	Robert Yates
109	Boris Said**	Carlsbad, CA	Dodge	Miccosukee Gaming & Resorts	James Finch
139	Ryan Newman**	South Bend, IN	Dodge	ALLTEL	Don Miller
143	Ron Fellows**	Mississauga, Ontario	Chevrolet	Bully Hill Vineyards	Mike Curb
150	Matthew Kobyluck**	Oakdale, CT	Chevrolet	Mohegan Sun Casino	Lori Kobyluck
163	Jeff Spraker**	Latham, NY	Chevrolet	Jarvis Construction	Susan Spraker
173	Kerry Earnhardt**	Kannapolis, NC	Chevrolet	Red Cactus Salsa/U.S. Mortgage	Daniel Griffin
177	Travis Kvapil**	Janesville, WI	Dodge	Kodak	Robert Torriere
183	Wally Dallenbach**	Basalt, CO	Chevrolet	Mr. Clean AutoDry Carwash	DeLana Harvick
265	Stan Silva Jr.**	Castroville, CA	Chevrolet	A & S Metals/Stan Silva Trucking	Stanley Silva, Sr
271	Paul Bonacorsi**	Rancho Cucamonga, CA	Chevrolet	MacDonald Motorsports	Gina MacDonald
283	Robby Gordon**	Orange, CA	Chevrolet	Red Bull	Robby Gordon
297	Todd Souza**	Aromas, CA	Chevrolet	Central Coast Cabinets	Kelly Souza

* Denotes Rookie
** Denotes driver/team not in the top 30 in owners' points, must qualify on time (top 12 of 24 plus either Steve Grissom-1993 Busch champ or 13th-fastest of 24)

[steveegg]

Toyota Tundra 200 (Trucks at Nashville Superspeedway) entry list -

Car	Driver	Hometown	Make	Sponsor	Owner
1	Ted Musgrave	Franklin, WI	Dodge	Mopar	James Smith
2	Jimmy Spencer	Berwick, PA	Dodge	Team ASE	James Smith
02	Kelly Sutton**	Crownsville, MD	Chevrolet	Team Copaxone	Ed Sutton
4	Timothy Peters*	Providence, NC	Dodge	Bailey's	Bobby Hamilton
04	Bobby Hamilton	Nashville, TN	Dodge	Bailey's	Stephanie Hamilton
5	Mike Skinner	Susanville, CA	Toyota	Toyota Tundra	Bill Davis
6	Ron Hornaday	Palmdale, CA	Chevrolet	GM Goodwrench	DeLana Harvick
07	Chris Wimmer	Wausau, WI	Chevrolet	Green Light Racing	Gene Christensen
8	Deborah Renshaw	Bowling Green, KY	Dodge	BHR2	Ray Montgomery
08	Johnny Chapman	Stony Point, NC	Chevrolet	Green Light Racing	Bobby Dotter
9	Shigeaki Hattori*/**	Okayama, Japan	Toyota	AISIN / AISIN AW	Don Arnold
10	Terry Cook	Sylvania, OH	Ford	Power Stroke Diesel	Greg Pollex
12	Mike Wallace	St. Louis, MO	Toyota	Toyota Tundra	Darrell Waltrip
13	Tracy Hines	New Castle, IN	Chevrolet	ThorSport Rcg/Zoriki Mtspts	Duke Thorson
14	Rick Crawford	Mobile, AL	Ford	Circle Bar Truck Corral	Tom Mitchell
15	John Andretti	Indianapolis, IN	Chevrolet	Billy Ballew Motorsports	James Ballew
16	Jack Sprague	Spring Lake, MI	Chevrolet	Chevy Trucks	David Fuge
17	David Reutimann	Zephyrhills, FL	Toyota	NTN Bearings	Darrell Waltrip
18	Chase Montgomery	Mt. Juliet, TN	Dodge	Bobby Hamilton Racing	Bobby Hamilton
22	Bill Lester	Oakland, CA	Toyota	Office Depot	Bill Davis
23	Johnny Benson	Grand Rapids, MI	Toyota	Toyota Certified Used Vehicles	Gail Davis
24	Roland Isaacs**	La Grange, KY	Chevrolet	Mighty Motorsports	Rob Ferguson
29	Brad Keselowski	Rochester Hills, MI	Ford	Samson Stone	Kay Keselowski
30	Todd Bodine	Chemung, NY	Toyota	Germain Motor Company	Stephen Germain
38	Brandon Whitt	El Cajon, CA	Toyota	Cure Autism Now/McMillin Homes	Tom DeLoach
46	Dennis Setzer	Newton, NC	Chevrolet	Chevrolet Silverado	David Dollar
50	Todd Kluever*	Deerfield, WI	Ford	Shell ROTELLA T	Jack Roush
59	Robert Pressley	Asheville, NC	Dodge	Harris Trucking	James Harris
62	Steve Park	East Northport, NY	Dodge	Orleans Hotel & Casino	Michael Gaughan
75	David Starr	Houston, TX	Chevrolet	Spears Manufacturing	Wayne Spears
77	Brendan Gaughan	Las Vegas, NV	Dodge	Jasper Engines & Transmissions	Michael Gaughan
88	Matt Crafton	Tulare, CA	Chevrolet	Menards/Seal Best	Rhonda Thorson
99	Ricky Craven	Newburgh, ME	Ford	Superchips	Jack Roush
165	Tim Fedewa**	Holt, MI	Dodge	Glynn Motorsports	Scott Glynn
168	Wayne Edwards**	Shepherdsville, KY	Dodge	Accent Health Care	Jack Welz
191	J C Stout**	Castile, NY	Chevrolet	Burt's Lumber	Donald Stout
205	Garrett Liberty**	Atlanta, GA	Dodge	Bobby Hamilton Racing	Stephanie Hamilton
260	Chad Chaffin**	Smyrna, TN	Toyota	Cintas Uniforms	Jeff Wyler
261	Alex Yontz**	Walnut Cove, NC	Chevrolet	Alex Yontz Racing	Kenny Yontz

* Denotes Rookie
** Denotes driver/team not in the top 30 in owners' points, must qualify on time (fastest 6 of 9, 6th-fastest will start 36th)

[WestCoastGal]

Morning all......

Keep your ears to the ground and your eyes on Matt Kenseth and Casey Mears and ??.

BBL

[steveegg]

Did someone say, goat? So THAT'S why the Wheels turned into a puddle of goo :-P

[steveegg]

Daily dose of Jayski -

• Chip Ganassi will make an announcement on Friday regarding sponsor activities and plans for 2006.
• Domino's will continue to be the Official Pizza of NASCAR
• Johnny Benson (driving the #23 Toyota truck for Bill Davis Racing) will do double duty at Michigan next weekend (the Smith Brothers #67 Dodge in Busch, the Michael Waltrip Racing #00 Chevy in Cup; the Trucks have the weekend off), and will drive the BDR #23 Cup car at Atlanta.
• Triple-headers at Watkins Glen - Jorge Goeters, Scott Pruett and Tony Stewart will run all 3 races at Watkins Glen (add the Grand American CompUSA 200 on Friday to their schedules). Double-dipping into Grand-Am are Kyle Petty, the brothers Labonte and Johnny Miller (who's actually double-dipping into Cup).
• The rumors of Mikey/NAPA to the #11 have resurfaced (as well as FedEx to the #18)
• According to sources, the lesser control Penske has over souvinier sales is part of the reason Kurt Busch bolted to Penske (Roush controls most of that as well as personal-services deals).

And from BGNRacing.com -

• RYR GM Eddie D'Hondt says that if they don't go with a 3rd full-time Cup team next year (decision point is the end of this month), they'll run more Busch races, including stand-alone events with a younger, development driver.
• Bill Elliot will drive the Evernham #6 Charlie Brown Christmas Dodge at Memphis October 22.
• Speaking of Evernham, he and Roush have apparently made a deal to swap the 6 and 9 numbers in Busch for next year, Kasey Kahne will be in the car most of the time, and Erin Crocker will either be in a partner's (unnamed and undecided) Dodge full-time or the other driver.

[steveegg]

More Busch news from Jayski -

• Jayski goes into greater depth on the Evernham/'06 plans, including Anthony Foyt.
• Tim Sauter struck out against the pitcher leading the independent Northern League in wins in his pro baseball debut, but did foul off a curveball.
• Jim Kelly will be the grand marshall of the Busch race this weekend. The #34 Dollar General team will honor his late son Hunter with a decal on the car and patches on the team uniforms.