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To: unbalanced but fair
But the implication is that women are only valuable as child-bearers.

Only if you read that way.

242 posted on 07/31/2005 9:11:36 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski; cyborg
Only if you read that way.

To: Hildy My definition of courtship is getting a parents' blessing to pursue the relationship. Not that it's mandatory but it's nice to have parents like who you go out with. Also, get both families involved in building the relationship. This will sound sexist but girls have a shelf life and should not go out with a man if she can't picture herself marrying him and having his children. That's my personal opinion. I do know other people who have this draconian opinion about courtship but I think mine is pretty relaxed. I've been in some courtship forums where I just shook my head and left. 121 posted on 07/31/2005 7:17:12 PM EDT by cyborg (to love,honor and obey...) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 112 | View Replies | Report Abuse

To: unbalanced but fair Women can't have children forever. That's not sexist, it's the truth. America is filled with feminists who wished they got married and had children sooner. 153 posted on 07/31/2005 7:33:11 PM EDT by cyborg (to love,honor and obey...) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 147 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

I don't think I'm the one you should be asking these questions. I've already worked out the answers with someone. Have a good night.

244 posted on 07/31/2005 9:31:05 PM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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To: Petronski; unbalanced but fair
But the implication is that women are only valuable as child-bearers...Only if you read that way.

Saying that women have "a shorter shelf-life" (observing this in practice) is quite different from saying that women "ought" to be less desirable as marriage partners as they grow older. The first is just noticing something that happens; the second, would be a sexist (or age-ist) value judgment.

Yes, it's a fact of fertility, sometimes. Amongst those that value childbearing, what sort of marriages are more likely to occur: 40 y-o man + 20 y-o woman, or 40 y-o woman and 20 y-o man?. Sometimes it's just a matter of attraction: it's hard for a 35 y-o woman to have all the visual appeal of a fresh, sleek, bouncy 20 y-o. And men --- can't help it --- are hard-wired by nature to be far more visually-oriented than women.

That's not sexism, either. I'm not saying that males "ought" to be that way. That's just the way it is, when the guy has a typical male-configured brain and blood-hormone status. An older, dumpier woman (like myself) can have a husband who loves her from the heart; a blind man can have rich sexual responses; but it's stark obvious that most men are instinctively drawn to the visual attraction of younger gals.

Good men -- good husbands --- learn to resist that, in order to avoid temptation. God's honest truth.

278 posted on 08/01/2005 5:40:06 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (In love, you give yourself as a gift.)
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