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Word For the Day, Tuesday, July 19, 2005
July 19, 2005 | Slip 18

Posted on 07/19/2005 5:34:51 AM PDT by Slip18

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To: xsmommy

IF you mean,

"It is good that you are throwing light on Harry Potter, because these are subtle seductions that work imperceptibly, and because of that deeply, and erode Christianity in the soul before it can even grow properly,"

Part of it. Generally, with things like that,I take it to be far more pertinent in the macro, I.E. in the general society, rather than at the individual level.


61 posted on 07/19/2005 6:30:29 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: hobbes1
The most prominent Potter critic in North America, Catholic novelist and painter Michael O'Brien commented to LifeSiteNews.com on the "judgement" of now-Pope Benedict saying, "This discernment on the part of Benedict XVI reveals the Holy Father's depth and wide ranging gifts of spiritual discernment." O'Brien, author of a book dealing with fantasy literature for children added, "it is consistent with many of the statements he's been making since his election to the Chair of Peter, indeed for the past 20 years - a probing accurate read of the massing spiritual warfare that is moving to a new level of struggle in western civilization. He is a man in whom a prodigious intellect is integrated with great spiritual gifts. He is the father of the universal church and we would do well to listen to him
62 posted on 07/19/2005 6:30:49 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Is that a pistol in your pocket?


63 posted on 07/19/2005 6:32:04 AM PDT by Slip18
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To: hobbes1
In a letter dated March 7, 2003 Cardinal Ratzinger thanked Kuby for her "instructive" book Harry Potter - gut oder böse (Harry Potter- good or evil?), in which Kuby says the Potter books corrupt the hearts of the young, preventing them from developing a properly ordered sense of good and evil, thus harming their relationship with God while that relationship is still in its infancy. "It is good, that you enlighten people about Harry Potter, because those are subtle seductions, which act unnoticed and by this deeply distort Christianity in the soul, before it can grow properly," wrote Cardinal Ratzinger. The letter also encouraged Kuby to send her book on Potter to the Vatican prelate who quipped about Potter during a press briefing which led to the false press about the Vatican support of Potter. At a Vatican press conference to present a study document on the New Age in April 2003, one of the presenters - Fr. Peter Fleedwood - made a positive comment on the Harry Potter books in response to a question from a reporter. Headlines such as "Pope Approves Potter" (Toronto Star), "Pope Sticks Up for Potter Books" (BBC), "Harry Potter Is Ok With The Pontiff" (Chicago Sun Times) and "Vatican: Harry Potter's OK with us" (CNN Asia) littered the mainstream media. In a second letter sent to Kuby on May 27, 2003, Cardinal Ratzinger "gladly" gave his permission to Kuby to make public "my judgement about Harry Potter."
64 posted on 07/19/2005 6:32:27 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Oh, A++++ for you, Cook. I'm typing this with a cat's tail on my keyboard. Could I borrow your pistol? And do you want a cat's tail for your key chain?


65 posted on 07/19/2005 6:33:31 AM PDT by Slip18
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To: theDentist

Much, much, mutch, meutsch bedder. Thank you, kind sir.


66 posted on 07/19/2005 6:35:19 AM PDT by Slip18
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To: xsmommy
in which Kuby says the Potter books corrupt the hearts of the young, preventing them from developing a properly ordered sense of good and evil

However, that statement, as I pointed out, is not entirely accurate. It is roughly akin to saying that because Good Cowboys Kill Bad Cowboys, all Cowboy stories distort the sense of good and evil, when in fact good and evil is generally thier salient theme..

67 posted on 07/19/2005 6:36:15 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: hobbes1
like i said, i am not on an anti-Potter crusade, i bought it for xsteen. i just can see what the Pope means in those statements about it.

i have the same reaction to the Disney channel showing kids shows that glamorize and glorify the occult and witchcraft. Halloweentown for one, where a girl is from a family of witches etc. And there is one about a hockey team where the Devil is a player, i can't recall what the name of it is, but the kid playing the devil is Eric from Boy Meets World. All of these things serves to make witchcraft, occult stuff out to be mundane and harmless.

i recall vividly the sermon that our priest gave in church after the Exorcist was released, the concept has stuck with me for decades... that the devil's biggest coup is to have people NOT believe in him... That's what is going on today, they are de-mystifying the Devil, who is very present in today's society and culture. but they have made him HIP and HAPPENING and not at all threatening.

68 posted on 07/19/2005 6:37:02 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: patton

Couldn't put it down until I fell asleep with it on my lap. So it caused me the opposite of insomnia. Would that be somnia?


69 posted on 07/19/2005 6:37:30 AM PDT by Slip18
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To: hobbes1

well the point there is why has she chosen WITCHES, universally thought to be evil and occult to MAKE into good guys. that itself is part of the problem. Cowboys connote nothing one way or the other as far as moral value goes.


70 posted on 07/19/2005 6:38:34 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

She should have consulted with you so you could advise her the time to do that is when the officer apprehends you -- not when you're already in court.


71 posted on 07/19/2005 6:39:26 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: MortMan

I'm just messing up today, Mort. Please excuse my lapses in synapses.


72 posted on 07/19/2005 6:40:09 AM PDT by Slip18
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To: Slip18

But your rhyming's got good timing!


73 posted on 07/19/2005 6:40:59 AM PDT by MortMan (Mostly Harmless)
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To: Slip18

Mernin!


74 posted on 07/19/2005 6:41:36 AM PDT by Laura Earl (Fitness is a journey not a destination.)
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To: MortMan

Thank you. I'm doing something right today. LOL!


75 posted on 07/19/2005 6:44:25 AM PDT by Slip18
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To: Laura Earl

Good morning, Laura! I misspelled the WFTD. It's spelled tussle.


76 posted on 07/19/2005 6:45:32 AM PDT by Slip18
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To: Slip18
It looks like the tussel over property rights in New London is not over after all.
77 posted on 07/19/2005 6:45:45 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: xsmommy

She didnt. Much like Tolkein did, she created a world that doesnt exist (though not on the level he did), But the good guys, and the bad guys have the same arsenal.

I mean..Is it a little more compatable, if the Witches are bad, and the good comes from somewhere else, ala Lewis' White Witch, sure.....


But IMHO, to be procedding in this direction gives the Rowling books the heady scent of official disaproval, and by extension detracts from the message you want to send to those very people reading the books.


It would have been far more useflul to say, "They are Kids books..no more no less, and not a problem as long as youngsters are provided with sound moral instruction...'


78 posted on 07/19/2005 6:47:39 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: xsmommy; hobbes1

Here is my $0.02 on the HP matter:

It is unfortunate that this huge popular phenomenon glamorizes "witchcraft" and appeals to children to explore the occult. I believe that it will expose many of them to dangerous consequences.

In addition, and perhaps even more subtly and deviously, the children in the story regularly disobey the rules -- or decide which rules they can disregard -- and are then regularly commended and rewarded for doing so. I think this sends a very dangerous message to children that it is ok for them to disobey their parents, teachers, laws, or whatever if they don't happen to agree with the rule/law. If the moral teaching from the story were that the bad children are the ones who disobey the rules and the consequences are usually unpleasant for disobedience, that would be one thing; but unfortunately the moral message is that disobedience is fun and good.


79 posted on 07/19/2005 6:52:23 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: hobbes1
"They are Kids books..no more no less, and not a problem as long as youngsters are provided with sound moral instruction...'

That's the problem. In my humble opinion the books undermine sound moral instruction (at best) and in some cases actually reinforce immoral lessons.

80 posted on 07/19/2005 6:54:20 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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