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Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince--SPOILER ALERT!!!
me | July 17, 2005 | grellis

Posted on 07/17/2005 5:16:14 PM PDT by grellis

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To: Malacoda

You're added!!


201 posted on 07/18/2005 11:32:24 AM PDT by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: backinthefold; All
The sword isn't a horcrux--Voldemort wanted access to it so he could make it a horcrux. At least, that was DD's supposition.

I'm having a very difficult time with the pc today, folks--all the humidity is making the mouse stick and I've forgotten the "dehumidify" spell. I'll be back tonight--we're in for a stormy afternoon here, I'm hoping that the humidity clears up a bit afterwards.

Keep those wands handy!

202 posted on 07/18/2005 11:36:01 AM PDT by grellis (Ravenclaw, class of '87)
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To: littleleaguemom
How does V get out of a locket or ring to do anything?

I think wearing it allows the wearer to be taken over.

More to the point, what good does making them nearly impossible to acquire serve?

203 posted on 07/18/2005 11:36:16 AM PDT by null and void (You'll learn more on FR by accident, than other places by design)
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To: SandyInSeattle
I do think Dumbledore is dead because he's now a portrait in the Headmaster's office. But I'm open to Snape having set it up with him.

Missed that one - had to go back and re-read the scene (a hard trick, since my 12 year old didn't want to let go of the book) - you're right, Dumbledore is on the wall. But one thing that the author has been careful to explain is that photos and portraits are not the people they portray, simply the capturing of a similarity of how they were when that photo or portrait was produced.

A good example of how this works is all the photos and portraits of Lockhart that Lockhart kept in the Dark Arts classroom.

I wouldn't be shocked if it was a stunt put together by Snape and Dumbledore, and I wouldn't be shocked if it wasn't a stunt and Dumbledore is dead.
204 posted on 07/18/2005 11:38:23 AM PDT by kingu
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To: kingu
You're right!

Wasn't Dumbledore on the chocolate frog cards, as well??

205 posted on 07/18/2005 11:39:47 AM PDT by Malacoda (*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*)
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To: kingu
But one thing that the author has been careful to explain is that photos and portraits are not the people they portray, simply the capturing of a similarity of how they were when that photo or portrait was produced.

True, but I think he'll still be able to assist Harry from his portrait. You know there has got to be at least a few more that he can travel between.

206 posted on 07/18/2005 11:40:42 AM PDT by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: Malacoda

Yes, he was.

Harry: "He's gone!"
Ron: "Of course he is. You can't expect him to wait around forever."


207 posted on 07/18/2005 11:41:29 AM PDT by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
It seems that if the Hogwart's frame is gone for the series, there is no longer anything limiting it to seven books, except perhaps that seven is the most magical number...
208 posted on 07/18/2005 11:41:55 AM PDT by null and void (You'll learn more on FR by accident, than other places by design)
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To: null and void; littleleaguemom
 think wearing it allows the wearer to be taken over.
 
What happened to DD hand?

More to the point, what good does making them nearly impossible to acquire serve?

Better to hid, so no one can destry them, and V can manipulate the Death Eaters enough to get any of them to collect it. The farther apart they are, the better his chances of never dying, and isnt that the point of doing that?

209 posted on 07/18/2005 11:42:15 AM PDT by backinthefold (4 more days till cable internet.... yee haa)
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To: grellis

Xerimus totalus, for mice...


210 posted on 07/18/2005 11:43:32 AM PDT by null and void (You'll learn more on FR by accident, than other places by design)
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To: retrokitten
Here's a thought, can the portrait of D walk into any Chocolate Frog Card?
211 posted on 07/18/2005 11:46:11 AM PDT by null and void (You'll learn more on FR by accident, than other places by design)
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To: null and void

Splat! Eeeeeee!

There went another brain cell.


212 posted on 07/18/2005 11:49:43 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: kingu

DD did tell Draco they could hide he and his mother more completely that he could ever know and everyone would believe they would both have been killed. Maybe that is what Snape and DD planned for DD. I just don't want to believe that he is dead. I was in a funk for a couple of hours yesterday after I finished reading the book.


213 posted on 07/18/2005 11:49:46 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.)
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To: null and void

I was thinking the same thing. Harry and the DA could all have pocket Dumbledores.


214 posted on 07/18/2005 11:51:26 AM PDT by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: backinthefold

From my post 176

I would think that DD's hand turned black when he put on the ring (horcrux) because the ring started to control him and Snape had to kill the hand and destroy the ring to get it to stop. I would not want to be the one to drink from Hufflepuff's cup or put on the locket.


215 posted on 07/18/2005 11:52:30 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.)
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To: grellis
I haven't finished reading it but I am not likeing Snape more and more as I read.

Also I read Rowling made 36 Million in 24 Hours on Book Sales. (not total price of books sold that is how mush SHE got) That is amazing!

(also a ping to myself, so I can comeback see what ya all think after I have finshed the book.)

216 posted on 07/18/2005 11:54:29 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: WV Mountain Mama

Good points. JKR is so good at laying out clues that it makes me want to go back and read all of the books again to see what I can pick up. Some time back I read an interview with her and she said that all the clues are there to figure out the ultimate outcome.


217 posted on 07/18/2005 12:08:38 PM PDT by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: Bella_Bru; Gardener
Check this out...

David Moulds for the News of the World - How does Aunt Petunia know about dementors and all the other magical facts she knows?

JK Rowling: Another very good question. She overheard a conversation, that is all I am going to say. She overheard conversation. The answer is in the beginning of Phoenix, she said she overheard Lily being told about them basically.

Is that true?

JK Rowling: Yes. The reason I am hesitant is because there is more to it than that. As I think you suspect. Correctly, but I don't want to say what else there is because it relates to book 7.

Kids Interview JKR

218 posted on 07/18/2005 12:40:23 PM PDT by retrokitten (www.retrosrants.blogspot.com)
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To: WV Mountain Mama
DD did tell Draco they could hide he and his mother more completely that he could ever know and everyone would believe they would both have been killed. Maybe that is what Snape and DD planned for DD. I just don't want to believe that he is dead.

I found myself thinking of this conversation as well. BUT Rowling has said that she isn't into tricks, but writes straightforwardly. That ought to mean that Snape performing the killing curse DID kill Dumbledore.

I still trust Snape. (My son is just as convinced that he's gone bad.) I like the idea that DD and Snape worked out his murder, especially to protect Draco from being a murderer. That sounds like Dumbledore.

I think Ron, Ginny and Hermione will stay with Harry even if he doesn't return to Hogwarts. I can't see them just going on with school or whatever while Harry fights. The ultimate fight will be with just Harry and Voldemort, of course, but he needs the Order and the DA kids to help with the Death Eaters and to gather info.

There is so much left to tie up! I just know that there is a larger story line with Neville! Something has to happen with Percy too, either an overtly evil act or a return to the fold. There was so much dealing with the werewolf thing too, I think, that there has to be something with Bill's resultant circumstances that means something for Harry.

I was surprised about Snape being the HBP, but I read the book so quickly...it seemed absolutely obvious once I knew! LOL! I had the Ron/Hermione romance pegged ages ago. I had thought Fleur would dump Bill at the hospital and that she'd turn out to be spying on the Weasley's or something.

I had heard enough rumors that DD's death wasn't a big surprise. But I did suspect at one point that it would be Hagrid. Glad it wasn't!

Now, WHY was DD so insistent that Harry only share info with Ron and Hermione? Did DD mean to exclude McGonagall and other professors...Lupin and the rest too? Couldn't DD have talked with them from his portrait and given them all comfort and advice, right away, once he appeared? Why didn't he? Even just a short chat with Harry to say something inspirational... We know that DD will never TRULY leave Hogwarts unless there is no one there who is loyal. That HAS to refer to help from his portrait, I think.

219 posted on 07/18/2005 1:18:25 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: WV Mountain Mama
I would think that DD's hand turned black when he put on the ring (horcrux) because the ring started to control him and Snape had to kill the hand and destroy the ring to get it to stop. I would not want to be the one to drink from Hufflepuff's cup or put on the locket.

DD's "wand hand" turned black in book V when Voldemort aimed at his wand with the Avakadevra curse...and by DD's own admission he was growing weaker and weaker...this is why I think it was all a plan between Snape and DD...DD sacrificed himself ...

220 posted on 07/18/2005 1:21:19 PM PDT by Quinotto (On matters of style swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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