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Posted on 07/14/2005 3:23:55 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
This is a horse chat thread where we share ideas, ask for input from other horsemen, and talk about our riding and horse-keeping. We have a lot of different kinds of riders and horses, and a lot to share. In the previous threads we have had a great time talking through lessons, training, horse lamenesses, illnesses and pregnancies... and always sharing pictures and stories.
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Ohhhhhhhh. Ok, he's lost the benefit of the doubt, then.
It's all innocuous stuff, but the fixation shows a pattern... prefering kids to adults, wanting to buy them things, liking to watch them play... sounds a little like Michael Jackson.
There's some really weird stuff being said about horses and ponies on that thread, growing to 70 years old, and that women should get geldings because they can't handle mares or stallions...
But it's all overshadowed by bigger weirdness.
Yeah, I read through the thread. People are always spouting off their supposedly vast horse knowledge. Everyone's an expert, that's for sure. It reminds me of the thread we were on when you invited me over to the saddle club, the one about Chris Reeve. Lots of stupid stuff on that one, too.
If you know even a little about a subject, you can usually spot the BSers... it's something to remember when we are reading a thread about something we ~don't~ know about....
LOL! Good advice.
We get the strangest calls. One lady called me wanting a palomino, blanketed gelding, broke to ride and she was ready to pay up to $1000 for it. I just wished her luck.
I had to read that number twice. Pay "up to ONE THOUSAND?" What year does she think this is, 1901?
I like palominos although I don't particularly care for palomino apps but that's what all the world wants right now. But if I had one, the stud fee would be $1000 :)
I'm amazed at what people will and won't pay for horses. A friend spent $10,000 this spring on a trained western pleasure paint, yet people want a fully trained, kid broke, totally sound, young horse for $1200.
I don't think I've ever seen a palomino app.
I can find kid safe horses for under $2000 but they aren't young and usually aren't sound. They do require some help to stay comfortable.
I think there are people out there that want the "perfect horse" which anyone who has been the horse business for at least a few years knows doesn't exist. And they want that perfect horse for $1000.
That's the point. I can maybe sell a papered horse for $2500, I can sell a grade well broke trail horse for $2000, I can sell a child proof horse for $1500-2000, I can even sell a young horse for $1500, but it's not going to be all in one horse. Costs alone average $75 per month per horse, stud fees can run up to $1000, nowhere can you get a horse saddle broke for less than $300 per month for 30days riding.And only time, lot's of time gets a child proof horse - time in training and age in the horse.
I'm going to mildly disagree, only to give perspective that horse pricing is all over the board, and depends more on the amount the buyer wants to spend than anything really fixed about the horse. Horses values depend on who they are being marketed ~to~ more than where they are coming from. Local economies I'm sure also have an impact.
Trail riders around here, barring exceptions, spend $1000 to at most $2000 for a pleasure trail horse. Cyn is papered half Arab and was $1200 at 7. I'd call her sound, child safe and well broke. She wasn't marketed as a show horse. She's correct enough to probably be show quality Western Pleasure youth at the local level or 4H... but not at Arab shows.
Bay is papered full Arab, could have been show quality English or Western in his youth, and was $1000 when we bought him as a 10 year old green horse (14 years ago) sold to the endurance rider for $2000 with some experience, She sold him for $4000 to Bailey after competing with him, who put many more miles on him and sold him to me for $1000 again at 19, still sound but with more miles behind him than in front of him.
My friend Tiff bought her sorrel QH, papered and child safe, for $2000. She was being marketed as a show horse. Her grey Arab, also a terrific trail horse, was $400 - diamond in the rough who just needed good groceries and regular foot care.
Class A show people expect to pay more. Even those showing only at the local level won't go look at a horse that is less than $4000.... Though there might be some cheaper ones that could become what they want, they think they need to spend at least that much. National show people of course start higher.
Barrel racers... well the sky's the limit. I don't know what's typical for a local caliber competitor, but I'd guess some of the backyard horses competing or getting started didn't have high price tags, except those that are pretty serious about it, or those beginners trying to buy their way into a winning horse.
Dressage is the same way... at the local level, you'll find people competing on backyard horses without high price tags, and you'll find well bred horses with five digit price tags. Some of those backyard horses do pretty well! They both put in, and get out of it, what they want.
Excellent post.
I had to pick one of my kids up from volleyball practice and as luck would have it, it was walking distance from an extremely large tack store. I got 6 hoof picks, the really cute ones with the horse head on one end, (I couldn't find any picks last night, although I have several. Dogs probably stole them), I also got some mane and tail brushes, 2 bottles of Tuff Stuff, some Corta-Flex for George and a cute canteen for my son. Oh, and a new lunge whip.
I wish that I had a tack shop near me. The closest one is two towns over! I need a pair of schooling breeches and a pair of paddock boots.
Probably be out of luck on those items at this store, they don't have any rider apparel at all. Only horse apparel. I usually order my breeches online and hope for the best.
I don't dare do that, because I know that they won't fit. My butt is too big, and my legs are too short! So what fits my leg length won't fit my butt, and vice versa. And my feet are so odd that I need to try everything on. :-)
Actually, I have the answer to your breech prayers. I bought something new, breeches made "full" for larger butts, hips and thighs. They fit great. Let me know if you want me to dig them out and give you the name and type of them. If you want sizes, I'll probably have to do that privately. :)
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