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Electric Guitar Playing FReepers! I need some advice please. (vanity)
01 July 05 | Me

Posted on 07/01/2005 4:55:39 PM PDT by Drew68

Here's the story:

I came into what appears to be a pretty good deal. It is a Marshall speaker cabinet holding four 12" speakers. It is a top (slanted) cabinet. The tag on the front lists it as a JCM800 Lead Series. The tolex has a few tears and there is a small tear in the speaker grille. It looks like it has seen some life on the road but it is solid.

I purchased this cabinet for $200. I do not currently possess a head with which to play it through. Not out here in Florida anyways.

Now here is where I get confused. Upon bringing it home I removed the rear panel so that I could see what shape the speakers were in. I knew they all worked because I tested it through a crappy solid state head. The speakers appear to be in good shape. I can't see any tears in the cones. All four are wired into one recessed 1/4" jack in the rear panel.

The lettering on each speaker magnet reads:

15 ohms? First, what is an ohm? I know ohms measure impedance and resistance but I'm not really sure how these terms are defined. I tried to find some info on the net but I must not be looking in the right place. I called some music stores and they all seemed incredulous when I mentioned that impedance was 15 ohms (and not 8 or 4). I heard horror stories that if I plug these into the wrong type of amp, I can destroy the speakers, head or both. One fellow even speculated that I have some weird British-wired amp and may have difficulty finding a head wired for it.

Ideally, I want an old Marshall JCM800 head, but the ones I've seen are only switchable between 4, 8 or 16 ohms. Nothing for 15 ohms. On Ebay, I see many cabinets that are 16 ohms. I simply cannot find out much information about ohms!

Do I have some strange cabinet I won't be able to use? As it sits, it is currently a stand for my much smaller Marshall practice amp.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: amplifier; guitar; guitarist; help; marshall
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
1 posted on 07/01/2005 4:55:42 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
weird British-wired amp

OOPS! Weird British-wired cabinet.

2 posted on 07/01/2005 4:58:14 PM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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To: Drew68

Get any Marshall head and you'll be fine.


3 posted on 07/01/2005 4:59:52 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Drew68

I owned 2 english automobiles, so I have to ask, "Does it leak oil?" If not, it isn't English.


4 posted on 07/01/2005 5:14:21 PM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: Drew68

Ohms is just a measure of resistance. You can plug it into ANY rated ohms speaker- but for best output they should all be matched.

For example, If you had a regular set of stereo speakers rated at 8 ohms, and you connected a second pair it would bring the resistance down to 4 ohms, and the output would seem louder to you (get it? same power through less resistance)

OK thats the best laymans terms I can come up with on short notice


5 posted on 07/01/2005 5:27:44 PM PDT by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Mr. K
For example, If you had a regular set of stereo speakers rated at 8 ohms, and you connected a second pair it would bring the resistance down to 4 ohms, and the output would seem louder to you

OK. So if I have four speakers @ 15 ohms each are they now 3.75 ohms wired together? With tube amplifiers (the only type that matters) it is integral that impedance is matched. Most amps can be switched between 4, 8 and 16 ohms impedance. Would I want to select 4 ohms (close to the combined impedance) or 16 ohms (close to the individual impedance)?

All I know is that a good tube amp is something of an investment and I don't want to screw it up.

6 posted on 07/01/2005 5:44:19 PM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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To: Drew68
Ideally, I want an old Marshall JCM800 head

Or I wouldn't mind a Hiwatt DR-103. An old one made before they started mounting the tubes directly onto the circut boards in the early-mid 1980s (this cost effective but bad, bad idea doomed Hiwatt amps).

Bump!

7 posted on 07/01/2005 5:58:07 PM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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To: Drew68
Sounds like you got a good deal. Check out http://www.harmony-central.com/ for more info of dating, specs, and more....
8 posted on 07/01/2005 5:58:32 PM PDT by rockrr (Gregorovych Nyet!)
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To: TheStickman

ping for you


9 posted on 07/01/2005 6:33:58 PM PDT by visualops (http://www.visualops.com)
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To: rockrr

Any Marshall head will be fine, though I would also suggest you check out Sovtek heads as I feel like you get better tone for less $$$.


10 posted on 07/01/2005 6:35:27 PM PDT by TheStickman (If a moron becomes senile how can you tell?)
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To: Drew68

Any Marshall head will do. I would suggest trying out a Sovtek head as well as I feel like you get better tone for your $$$


11 posted on 07/01/2005 6:37:15 PM PDT by TheStickman (If a moron becomes senile how can you tell?)
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To: TheStickman
I would suggest trying out a Sovtek head as well as I feel like you get better tone for your $$$

Made in St. Petersburg, Russia. Hmm... That kinda scares me, though I have heard good things about Sovteks. I know the ole' CCCP embraced tube technology much more than the West did.

12 posted on 07/01/2005 6:55:57 PM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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To: Drew68

One question I forgot to ask was this: What style of music? For metal or very heavy distortion a Marshall head is the answer. For blues/rock and roll I would definitely suggest Sovtek.


13 posted on 07/01/2005 7:04:49 PM PDT by TheStickman (If a moron becomes senile how can you tell?)
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bttt


14 posted on 07/01/2005 7:13:55 PM PDT by Drew68 (IYAOYAS! Semper Gumby!)
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