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OpenOffice 2.0 Beta Review
osjuounral ^ | Wed, Jun 29th 2005 (08:51AM CDT) | Vishnu

Posted on 06/30/2005 5:49:09 AM PDT by N3WBI3

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1 posted on 06/30/2005 5:49:09 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: ShadowAce; N3WBI3; Tribune7; frogjerk; Salo; LTCJ; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Buck W.; clyde asbury; ...

OSS PING

If you are interested in a new OSS ping list please mail me

2 posted on 06/30/2005 5:49:52 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (I musta taken a wrong turn at 198.182.159.17)
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To: N3WBI3

I'm playing around with NeoOffice. So far, it compares favorably to Word


3 posted on 06/30/2005 6:16:07 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: N3WBI3
I currently use OOo for all my needs--WP, spreadsheet, and presentations, and have never had a problem with MS Office interoperability.

Here at the office, where I'm forced to use MS Office, I've run into a client that uses OOo. We had no problem communicating in that direction, either.

I highly recommend OOo for those who prefer not to shell out $400.00 for a word processor. It just works, it's compatible with everything, and the file formats are transparent and open. It a superior product to everything else I've tried.

4 posted on 06/30/2005 6:19:14 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Tribune7

Yea, there were some problmes with 'X' on OSX laptops, if it was running when the latop went into suspend sometimes it the laptop could not be woken up. NeoOffice was a nice addition my wifes PB.

Im using gnucash on my mini (which has to run through X) and gimp..


5 posted on 06/30/2005 6:22:15 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (I musta taken a wrong turn at 198.182.159.17)
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To: ShadowAce; Tribune7

Careful guys this open source ping list is better suited to du (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1432930/posts?page=3#3)

;)


6 posted on 06/30/2005 6:24:13 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (I musta taken a wrong turn at 198.182.159.17)
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$400.00 for a word processor

Where are you shopping????

Microsoft Works Suite includes the full version of Microsoft Word and tons of other stuff you wont find in open source all for $76.95.

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Microsoft Works Suite 2005 helps your whole family handle daily tasks more easily and enjoyably by providing a great collection of six popular Microsoft programs for one great price.

Get Microsoft programs that your whole family can use, including Works, Encarta Encyclopedia, Picture It! Premium, Streets and Trips, and Money
Helpful features such as ready-to-use templates and automatic spelling and grammar checks make it easy to create professional-looking documents
Create and complete home projects quickly with 500 templates for letters, resumes, budgets, greeting cards, photo projects, and much more.

7 posted on 06/30/2005 7:06:04 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: N3WBI3

I'm sorry to see Open Office relying on Java more and more.


8 posted on 06/30/2005 7:06:43 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Incorrigible
Microsoft Works Suite includes the full version of Microsoft Word and tons of other stuff you wont find in open source all for $76.95.

Why shell out $76.95 when OSS is free?

9 posted on 06/30/2005 7:08:31 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk

Because you get a product that is of better quality, better support for real end users and because you get software that doesn't exist in the copy cat world of open source.


10 posted on 06/30/2005 7:09:50 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible

Since when has a full version of Word been available in Works? (This package doesn't include Excel, Powerpoint, or Access, either.)


11 posted on 06/30/2005 7:13:07 AM PDT by kevkrom (“It’s good to remember whom people turn to when they’re desperate — and it ain’t Kofi Annan.”)
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To: Incorrigible
That's entirely your opinion. OSS works. If it didn't, Micro$oft wouldn't constantly be doing a full court press in the MSM against it.

BTW, Crappy MS Works is not worth $76.95.

12 posted on 06/30/2005 7:17:38 AM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Incorrigible
Where are you shopping????

It's been a while since I priced MS Office (Pro), but that was the price I last saw. If it has come down, great!

Get Microsoft programs that your whole family can use, including Works, Encarta Encyclopedia, Picture It! Premium, Streets and Trips, and Money

Works--OOo I can use and so does my whole family
Encarta--Are you serious? You've never heard of the Internet for fact research?
Picture It!--Most any graphics program works just fine. None of us (my family) are professional photographers anyway.
Streets and Trips--Rand McNally does the same thing
Money--Gnucash is perfect for my small business and family finances.

MS offers me nothing that I can't get somewhere else--usually better, cheaper, and more reliable.

13 posted on 06/30/2005 7:20:16 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: kevkrom
Word has been included in the Works Suite for years and several version.  Works alone does not include Word but does have a competent word processor as well as an Excel compatible spreadsheet program, calendar and user friendly database application that help with mailing lists, asset inventory and other common household applications.  It also integrates well with Internet Explorer and Outlook Express.

The Suite includes Picture It!, a digital photo editor that is more relevant for home use that Power Point.

Read all about Microsoft Works Suite.

Those who need more calculation power that full Excel offers, or need a presentation program like PowerPoint can upgrade to Microsoft Office.  If you need a full fledged database program, then Office Professional.  These programs are cheap to acquire when purchasing a new computer for the retail customer and Microsoft has deep discount programs for volume based corporate purchases.  If ANYONE in your household is in school, there's an Academic version available that includes everything for $158.95!

That's a lot more value from commercial software for the average user than anything offered in Open Source.

14 posted on 06/30/2005 7:27:09 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible

So, in other words, despite the sales pitch, Works Suite isn't an adequate replacement. So why did you bring it up in the first place?


15 posted on 06/30/2005 7:32:56 AM PDT by kevkrom (“It’s good to remember whom people turn to when they’re desperate — and it ain’t Kofi Annan.”)
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To: ShadowAce
Where are you shopping????

It's been a while since I priced MS Office (Pro), but that was the price I last saw. If it has come down, great!

Office Pro at retail does cost almost $400 but that's a lot more than a Word Processor.  As I've shown, there are plenty of price points in the Microsoft Office line up that offer the consumer the best value.

Get Microsoft programs that your whole family can use, including Works, Encarta Encyclopedia, Picture It! Premium, Streets and Trips, and Money

Works--OOo I can use and so does my whole family  -- That's good no?

Encarta--Are you serious? You've never heard of the Internet for fact research?  --Maybe you don't want your kids on the internet when looking up stuff for school

Picture It!--Most any graphics program works just fine. None of us (my family) are professional photographers anyway.  --Picture It! is pretty easy to use an critically acclaimed.  It can help those non-professional photographers look like one!

Streets and Trips--Rand McNally does the same thing  --What if you don't have a fancy car with a built in GPS guide but do have a laptop with Streets and Trips.

Money--Gnucash is perfect for my small business and family finances. -- I prefer something with better support than a newsgroup.

MS offers me nothing that I can't get somewhere else--usually better, cheaper, and more reliable.

Open Source offers no innovation but merely copies of successful software.  And like outsourcing, will drive down the value of the work of software professionals that soon they will not exist in the US.
 

16 posted on 06/30/2005 7:38:08 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: kevkrom

Works Suite is not a replacement for Office Pro but if you're looking for a Word Processor like ShadowAce, you don't have to spend $400. It what's installed on all the computers in my house besides mine because it fits the need of the other users in my house.


17 posted on 06/30/2005 7:40:04 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible
Open Source offers no innovation but merely copies of successful software.

Keep telling that to yourself as every internet packet you send goes through a TCP/IP stack based on open source code that Microsoft uses under the BSD license.

18 posted on 06/30/2005 7:41:09 AM PDT by kevkrom (“It’s good to remember whom people turn to when they’re desperate — and it ain’t Kofi Annan.”)
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To: Incorrigible; kevkrom
...if you're looking for a Word Processor like ShadowAce, you don't have to spend $400.

Which was also my point. OOo is not only DL'able, but it's HDD footprint is much smaller than any MS offering, it has as many, if not more, features as MS Office PRO, the support is better and faster than MS offers, and it fits the needs of my family (and small business).

That last point is the major factor. Use what works best for you. Choice is always a good thing. If MS software works best for your situation, I'm not complaining. However, I know that OOo works best for MY situation, and I know it would work for a lot of people out there.

19 posted on 06/30/2005 7:48:08 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: kevkrom

Taxpayers paid for the development of TCP/IP. I support DOD software contracts.

Open Source intended for commercial purposes is merely a knockoff soon to be programmed exclusively in China.


20 posted on 06/30/2005 7:49:02 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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