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Lord of the Rings - help needed (vanity)

Posted on 06/24/2005 7:13:06 AM PDT by hispanichoosier

I need help with LOTR. Two friends and I were discussing the books and movies last weekend. Friend 1 observed that the relationship between Frodo and Sam (in the movies) had homosexual overtones. Friend 2 retorted that the relationship is based on the master/servant relationship of old England and that Friend 1 was looking at it through American eyes, where rugged individualism is more prized. I--caught in the middle--had to admit that I thought that Sean Astin overplayed Sam at times but was great overall.

So, was Friend 1 right about the gay overtones, or was Friend 2's explanation correct? I'm rather at a loss over the whole debacle.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; The Hobbit Hole
KEYWORDS: aragorn; bilbo; fanboy; frodo; gandalf; lord; rings; sam; thisthreadisgay; tolkien
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To: HairOfTheDog

LOL!!!


221 posted on 06/24/2005 8:44:45 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg


222 posted on 06/24/2005 8:54:30 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

You're too much! LOL


223 posted on 06/24/2005 8:57:58 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Gay hobbits and pap smears.

You have me where you want me now.

224 posted on 06/24/2005 8:58:47 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: cyborg
Congrats to you and Petro.

Are you engaged yet?

225 posted on 06/24/2005 9:00:16 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: cyborg

I tried to find a smiley that was upside-down ;~D

That looks more like a proctology exam, but I think the same joke applies :~D

I do try to enjoy myself, even if some folk are a little abrasive.


226 posted on 06/24/2005 9:00:48 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: carolinacrazy; Petronski

He is the official spokesman of this relationship :o)


227 posted on 06/24/2005 9:00:53 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg; Petronski

Wow... we never had an official PR policy!


228 posted on 06/24/2005 9:02:00 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; cyborg

You should see the "human relations" procedure book!


229 posted on 06/24/2005 9:03:04 PM PDT by Petronski (Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
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To: cyborg
I completely understand, but am very surprised to see that you are that submissive.

Has he beaten you?

230 posted on 06/24/2005 9:04:09 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: Petronski

Regular scheduled raises, or are you guys compensated based on job evaluation?


231 posted on 06/24/2005 9:05:32 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: carolinacrazy

Not yet. I'm looking forward to that part :o)


232 posted on 06/24/2005 9:06:34 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: HairOfTheDog
even if some folk are a little abrasive.

I am truly sorry if I came across abrasive.

Just foolin around.

Maybe next time I can compete with your smear.

233 posted on 06/24/2005 9:10:28 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: cyborg; Petronski
Well, here we go again.

You must find better friends than Dasher.

234 posted on 06/24/2005 9:11:17 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: carolinacrazy
Oh Hair of the dogs-ass is not accidently abrasive.
235 posted on 06/24/2005 9:11:35 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: carolinacrazy

lol


236 posted on 06/24/2005 9:11:50 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Sadly, this is true.

Atleast I got that hair raised a bit.

You attacked first. I did not whistle for ya over here.

237 posted on 06/24/2005 9:13:09 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: carolinacrazy

I suppose I did. But people making homoerotic allegations about LoTR really pisses me off.

The best part of LoTR is getting away from the lower aspects of human nature... Or at the very least, not letting them win.


238 posted on 06/24/2005 9:17:25 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I suppose I did. But people making homoerotic allegations about LoTR really pisses me off.

I suppose I should have pointed out my humor in my original post, but as you say...

I get less and less wittier with every post. Didn't want to push my luck.

P.S. I don't really care about getting mad at random criticism of movies.

Maybe a stress test versus smear next time huh?

239 posted on 06/24/2005 9:24:09 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: carolinacrazy

Well, when someone leaves a big crap in the middle of something I like, I tend to try to encourage them to pick it up and put it where it belongs.


240 posted on 06/24/2005 9:33:33 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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