Posted on 05/19/2005 8:11:37 AM PDT by LouAvul
All the women I have known who were practicing lesbians had a traumatic sexual experience with someone when they were a teen or very early in their adult years, or had been in an abusive relationship, and swore off men afterwards. Every one.
Tell me there is no correlation. (I am not saying someone might fixtate without this, but I am saying lots and lots of women who do this have this happen.)
Not, of course, to minimize her abuse experience, but one wonders, did the girl ever have any experience with other males who attempted or had the impulse to touch her privates?
I think this is common. Sad.
Ping
Of course, let's wait 'til the old man dies so we can accuse him of anything we want to justify our sick and warped life.
I don't know any lesbians who hate men. They just don't want to date them.
Ever heard of Beastiality? :-)
So, she became a lesbian?
This, like degenerate, stinks to high heaven.
What I've always wondered about Ellen D. is why her girlfriends are always so feminine? I mean, Anne (on-again, off-again lesbian) Heche is good looking and feminine and so is Portia Del Rossi (sp?). They don't seem to have a butch thing to them. That is not too common in the Lesbian's I have known. Even the more feminine ones, still have obviously masculine characteristics.
It is a well-documented fact that many many homosexuals were sexually abused when young. (This paper will conclude with a list of some books which support that statement.)
In other words, there is an abundance of evidence that many many homosexuals were born heterosexual but were disoriented by sexual abuse.
Indeed, there are many more cases of sexual abuse than there are cases of homosexuality. As one large study discussed in a 1997 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association found, on average 12.8% of women and 4.3% of men recall being sexually abused.1 (How many do not recall it?)
According to Dr. James E. Soukup, author of a book which deals with several subjects including sexual abuse: "In one national study in 1985, 27 percent of the females interviewed and 16 percent of the males reported to have been sexually abused as children. Other studies indicate that these figures are too low. It is suggested that eighty percent of all sexual abuse is not reported."2
The Associated Press noted in late 1998 that, according to an analysis of 166 studies covering the years 1985-97: "As many as one in five boys is sexually abused....It [also] concluded that sexual abuse of boys is underreported and undertreated....Earlier studies have shown that 25 percent to 35 percent of girls are sexually abused."3
(According to a JAMA review of literature re the sexual abuse of boys, only 10%-33% of male abuse victims ever tell anyone about that abuse.4 The review also found that: "Abused [male] adolescents, particularly those victimized by males, were up to 7 times more likely to self-identify as gay or bisexual than peers who had not been abused."5 And regarding female abuse victims, one study found that 38% of adult women ages 18-31 who were sexually abused when young [between ages 10 months to 12 years] did not remember that they were sexually abused when young.6)
Whatever the true percentages are of male and female sex abuse victims, considering how high the suggested/reported numbers are compared to the percentage of the population that is homosexual (only 1%-2%), we can see that sexual abuse can theoretically account for every case of homosexuality.
Too, there currently is no definitive proof that anyone is born homosexual. (Several studies by homosexual researchers claimed to find some possible biological bases for homosexuality. But other scientists easily pointed out the flaws in those studies, and the results of those studies have yet to be replicated by others. In the words of pro-homosexual Newsweek magazine: "In the early '90s, three highly publicized studies seemed to suggest that homosexuality's roots were genetic....More than five years later the data have never been replicated."7 [This fact has been almost totally ignored by the biased, untrustworthy, dominant liberal media.] And in November 2003, the ardently pro-homosexual Chicago Tribune noted this: "Genes once touted as prompting homosexuality, for example, have fizzled out....[S]cientific evidence has been lacking for a biological cause of homosexuality."8
(And even if there ever was a "homosexual gene," since most if not all homosexuals do not sire offspring, one would think that homosexual genes would disappear or die out.)
So how can anyone claim, in good conscience, that homosexuals are born that way and have no choice? When someone says they are homosexual, our first response should be to try and find out if he/she was sexually abused and, if so, to then punish the abuser. Our next response should be to provide therapy to homosexuals to help them cope with their problems.
Those who push the born-homosexual line are effectively ignoring the sexual abuse of children. What kind of "people" want to let pedophiles get away with sexually abusing little kids?
(If sexual abuse happens to a one-year or two-year old child, he or she may not remember it later in life because it happened at such a young age. However, the trauma can govern the rest of the victim's life. Some homosexuals will swear they were never sexually abused, but they have no way of knowing for sure.)
Skilled psychologists and psychiatrists like Masters and Johnson, Charles Socarides, Joseph Nicolosi, Benjamin Kaufman, Elizabeth Moberly, Jeffrey Satinover, and Gerard van den Aardweg, have had much success changing homosexuals into heterosexuals. (They have been successful because most if not all homosexuals were probably born heterosexual.)
Dr. Reuben Fine, Director of the New York Center for Psychoanalytic Training: "It is paradoxical that even though the politically active homosexual group[s] denies the possibility of change, all studies from Schrenk-Notzing on have found positive effects, virtually regardless of the kind of treatment used....If the homosexual patients were motivated, whatever procedure [i.e., treatment] is adopted, a large percentage will give up their homosexuality."9
Those who oppose using therapy to change homosexuals into heterosexuals are, in effect, trying to keep homosexuals locked into homosexuality. Those who oppose such therapy do not want homosexuals to have a choice, a way out of homosexuality. That's un-American, inhumane, intolerant, and meanly oppressive.
In addition, considering all the solid scientific evidence that homosexuals are mentally disturbed to one degree or another because of sexual abuse (or dysfunctional parents or other negative developmental influences many homosexuals experienced), it is clear that those psychiatrists and psychologists who say homosexuality should NOT be on the officially approved list of mental illnesses are seemingly incompetent malpractitioners. They appear to be more interested in being "politically (in)correct" than in the truth. Incompetent malpractitioners should have their licenses to ply their professions revoked.
One last note: Homosexuals do not want you to know that many of them were sexually abused when young, because many people who were so abused go on to molest others. And homosexuals do not want you to know that they are more likely to molest children than heterosexuals are.10
Credit to H.O.M.E.
some lesbians hate men because they were violated by them--which may be why they become lesbians in the first place... they come to learn that men cannot be trusted... some go so far as to reject their own gender altogether--they act more like men--because they've learned it's not safe being female... molestation in childhood this is very common in lesbians...
Hm....are the ratings for her show down?
And many here are saying the correlation exists, i.e. Freepers.
Another idea along the same lines is with boys. Boys who don't have fathers 1.) seek a type of attention, however Skewed, from other males - the wrong type of affection if you will... and 2.) a male without a father is smothered by a mother who isn't loved by that missing father. So it's argued that the boy who is smothered picks up on effeminent mannerisms and skewed desires.
I think her TV show must have ratings problems. Not that I don't believe her, I just question the timing of this announcement.
Thass raght! DeGeneres says it's true, it happened, and the case is closed.
It turns out Rosie made it up to sell a book.
"What caused you to go from the creative side of the Force to the Dark Side?"
Boredom. I was a Quality Assurance Manager for an aerospace outfit and they seemed to think it was ok to put the quality in after the sale.
Anyway, as an old fart with a law degree and a Patent Law cert, I did the only thing I could think of. I did criminal defense. Interesting and NOT BORING, and you meet a variety of people. I told every client that I couldn't make them "not guilty" and they should go from there.
Look at the source .. CBS!!!
Don't believe it!
I don't believe this. I've had a lot of gay friends (male and female), and almost 80% of them had experienced some sort of traumatic sexual abuse in their youth. That always struck me as odd. Has there ever been any research done on this?
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