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Need to help a friend with political debate
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Posted on 05/02/2005 10:36:57 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99

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can you provide me any links, charts, info, whathaveyou to debunk his liberal friends arguments? I already sent him the link to moorelies.com.

THX

1 posted on 05/02/2005 10:36:57 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Free Republic is a one-stop-shop of data to debunk leftist crapola.


2 posted on 05/02/2005 10:39:25 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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Tell him to sign up here and post that stuff.


3 posted on 05/02/2005 10:41:19 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Save yourself the trouble. Cross this one off the friend list.

As Ann Coulter says, only argue with a liberal if you must.

Whatever concrete arguments you make, they'll change the subject, appeal to emotion, or make the same argument again, as if they haven't heard you.

It's pointless, FRiend. Liberals only discover reality when it personally smacks 'em in the face.

Just resign yourself that you might get an email from them in a couple of years lamenting how wrong they were.


4 posted on 05/02/2005 10:43:44 PM PDT by JennysCool (Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.)
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To: rube; ChuxsterS; Little Bill; ElectricStrawberry

bump


5 posted on 05/02/2005 10:43:47 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Those who will not fight for freedom deserve slavery!)
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luckily, he's not my friend. he's my friend's friend. secondly, I love a good challenge. I am very persuasive. I could woo anakin away from the dark side.

"Big Guy, your facts about the Emperor are very logical and concise. I will switch sides."


6 posted on 05/02/2005 10:46:33 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Those who will not fight for freedom deserve slavery!)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1357205/posts

Good luck.


8 posted on 05/02/2005 10:48:11 PM PDT by Killborn (Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger --> Pope Benedict XVI: God bless and keep him. May he reign in greatness.)
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Plainview received some, but we only had drizzle and a wee bit of sleet. If we have any more Global Warming here, we'll freeze to death.


9 posted on 05/02/2005 10:49:16 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

There is no wooing these people even with ironclad arguments.

Never.

It just wastes your time.

They have to have personal reality do the wooing.

And, luckily, that happens to quite a few of them, eventually.


10 posted on 05/02/2005 10:54:11 PM PDT by JennysCool (Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.)
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I was one of those people. My college friend was able to break the chains of my liberal enslavement thru Rush Limbaugh. Helping him unbrainwash his friend is the least I could do. Well, the least I could do is nothing, so I'll go him one further.


11 posted on 05/02/2005 11:03:33 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Those who will not fight for freedom deserve slavery!)
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Good luck ... But I'm betting your personal experience made you open to reason when Rush came calling. Until that sort of real, live, experience affects a liberal, they're unreachable.

As they say, a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged.


12 posted on 05/02/2005 11:12:40 PM PDT by JennysCool (Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.)
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actually I believe my respone to my friend turning on Rush was: "Oh Phil, You don't like HIM do you?"

I don't think I was open at the time. Rush talked. He made sense. What can I say?

13 posted on 05/02/2005 11:25:44 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Those who will not fight for freedom deserve slavery!)
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OK, so get this other guy to listen to Rush.

As for the stupid canned emails, just forward them back to him and delete.


14 posted on 05/03/2005 1:02:54 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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most people don't respond to getting hammered over the head. I just happen to.


15 posted on 05/03/2005 6:33:27 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (Those who will not fight for freedom deserve slavery!)
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My response would be such that the person wouldn't talk to me or email me again.

Obviously, I wouldn't be very helpful with converting that dear deviant lefty.

Sorry.

:)


16 posted on 05/03/2005 6:41:15 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the Rats in terror before me.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Rusty....I know you and you're just like me....always looking for a good argument with a liberal weenie. Forget about sending links such as moorelies.com....weenies DO NOT read links provided. The fear of being wrong overrides the quest for the truth. Since I'm still in the belly of the beast and have extensive experience dealing with these weenies (as you used to be), the #1 best method I've found is to have 100% control of the debate/argument. Allow the weenie to bring up a point and then NEVER allow him/her to change the subject until you see that the weenie has seen that that one point is a loser. Otherwise, THEY will control the argument and you will go for the ride of your life through topics that change more than John Kerry's position on abortion. It's about control....and YOU need to have it. When they change the subject, just stop them, tell them not to change the subject, remind them of what the subject actually was, and hammer the shit out of the subject until YOU want it changed.....then allow them to change it.

Otherwise, they will fly through subjects quicker than you can address them....thus (here's their logic at work), anything you do not address is correct in their mind. Plus, by flying through ever-changing topics, they keep YOU on the defense....constantly defending Republicans or Republican/conservative ideas that have nothing to do with what you WERE talking about.

....and if you have specific details you want assistance with, lemme know (you can also FR-mail me)....any link provided already has crashed.

17 posted on 05/03/2005 6:58:16 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years....Nec Aspera Terrent!!!)
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Stop wasting your time. Create a message rule for your email that places the friend's e-mail directly into the deleted file. Send the friend an e-mail that says call me when you grow up.
18 posted on 05/03/2005 8:56:28 AM PDT by SouthWall (People believe President Bush will kill the terrorist, and Kerry will talk to them.)
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One of life's frustrating truths is that really stupid people are frequently too damn stupid to have any grasp of how stupid they are. I think your friend's friend may fall into that category; a lot of brainwashed young leftists do. To add insult to injury they're often quite smug about how smart they are. So I'm tempted to caution you not to hold out too much hope of winning any arguments.

But please - don't hold out on us. Can you re-post some of the junk your friend's friend is putting forward? When he tries to assert George Bush is "responsible for 9/11" does he mean that he buys the theory that Bush actually directed an operation to fly planes into the WTC?

19 posted on 05/03/2005 1:57:15 PM PDT by ChuxsterS
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Your friend is out of date.

The latest lefty on CSPAN today said that Cheney was the guy behind 911 and W was just his tool.

I love the 911 conspiracy theories because two of my old classmates and friends are allegedly two of the "secret conspirators".

I guess I should just call them up and ask them if they did it. ;-)
20 posted on 05/07/2005 1:13:12 PM PDT by cgbg (When do I wake up from this socialist nightmare?)
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