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Please see my post below

Most illegals are hired as contract workers, and their pay has no deductions for FICA or Medicare.

In certain areas, perhaps (e.g., migrant field workers). But throughout the country, the vast majority of illegals are on the payroll of businesses, using a false SS#. They are paying payroll tax--their portion of FICA. They probably aren't paying a lot of income tax, because they know enough of the system to claim several exemptions for dependents.

You offer unsubstantiated opinion as if it were fact. It doesn't sound like you care a bit for a sound immigration policy, you just want to be able to get paid more for doing less and you don't like the way immigrants under-bid you. Also, many Mexicans are risking life and limb to get over the border...look at the El Paso rail yard and all the guys who are bit by rattlesnakes or vivisected by trains. You are trying to tell me that they are putting their lives in jeopardy simple because they are dying to be "exploited"? If so, I'm sure someone in Mexico will be happy to exploit them and they don't have to take those kinds of chances for it. In other words, I don't believe that someone is being exploited if the thing they are doing is voluntary.

We have a big problem with illegal immigration in this country, but not with legal immigration from Mexico or anywhere else. The solution I think makes the most sense is multiply the Mexican quotas by 100 for legal immigration, abolish the minimum wage, and deny all social services for anyone who isn't a permanent resident. (and that means all... the pregnant woman dies on the emergency room steps) then we will get precisely the kind of people form Mexico that we want. People who want to come here to work, and are willing to become 'American'. then our 'culture can absorb' that many people just fine.

Actually I am concerned with the American citizen laborer. It is not my personal issue.

I think you need to re-examine some of your ideas. Exploitation can come from Mexican or American employers and it does. It is wrong no matter who does it. A prostitute works "voluntarily", but it still exploitation. A Mexican comes here volutarily, but not with full disclosure and is also exploited.

I have no trouble with legal, measured immigration which does not destroy either culture.History shows that too many too fast is unworkable.

If we legalized a hundred time the current allotment of immigrants from Mexico, wages will be futher depressed. It is cruel to deny emergency services so I can't agree with your solution.

That's lucidly stated, but I think you're ignoring the facts. Wages will be lowered. Period. It has no bearing on immigration, legal or otherwise. either they come here and the wages drop, or the company will go to there and the wages will drop. It's unavoidable without completely rethinking our entire economics structure. and even then, the centrally controlled paradigm that would result has been proven time and again that it doesn't work.
Labor economics is my business. It's how I make my way in the world. And believing that wages can be frozen in time is like trying to hold back the tides.
and I still have a problem with your idea that our 'culture' is being destroyed. They said precisely the same thing about Irish immigration in 1849, and it was as fallacious then as it is now.

You seem to assert that exploitation happens because people aren't getting the value for their labor that you feel is appropriate. But I suspect that 'your opinion of the facts' is probably not the objective statistical measure upon which we should base policy.

That's lucidly stated, but I think you're ignoring the facts. Wages will be lowered. Period. It has no bearing on immigration, legal or otherwise. either they come here and the wages drop, or the company will go to there and the wages will drop. It's unavoidable without completely rethinking our entire economics structure. and even then, the centrally controlled paradigm that would result has been proven time and again that it doesn't work.
Labor economics is my business. It's how I make my way in the world. And believing that wages can be frozen in time is like trying to hold back the tides.
and I still have a problem with your idea that our 'culture' is being destroyed. They said precisely the same thing about Irish immigration in 1849, and it was as fallacious then as it is now.
You seem to assert that exploitation happens because people aren't getting the value for their labor that you feel is appropriate. But I suspect that 'your opinion of the facts' is probably not the objective statistical measure upon which we should base policy.

There are some jobs than cannot be outsourced and if there are more people than jobs, wages are depressed. I am in Tucson and have seen it happening.

In addition, the tax laws can encourage or discourage corporations moving to other countries. We just must have the will to do so.

I agree that the Irish were vilified as you said, but they came legally and they did not come in the huge illegal waves that is occuring with the illegal Mexican.In addition, they spoke English, even though with a brogue. Further, they came as a result of the incredible discrimination they suffered from the English. The educated Mexican, who is able to finish school is, in my experience, better educated than our own citizens and if they come in reasoable,legal numbers can elevate our culture. Generally, the ones coming from Mexico currently are not educated, they do not speak English and they are not escaping religious discrimination. Some of the towns in Mexico have no men left. That is destruction. OUr towns are being overrun with Mexicans who can't earn enough to live here and send money home, so they resort to theft (Tucson has the highest theft rate in the nation) or drug or people smuggling. That too, is destruction.

I am not against legal immigration in reasonable numbers.

Just so long as YOU get to decide what 'reasonable numbers' are, and YOU don't see any degredation to our culture.

You take a very liberal track when it comes to justification of your argument. You don't say that the facts were somehow different for the Irish except that their motives were something that you approved of. While with the Mexicans, their motives are less worthy according to you. All utter liberal nonsense in my opinion...certainly not a conservative point of view.

(I'll tell you a secret....you aren't fooling anyone with regard to your motives on this issue.)

You need to argue in specifics.