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Rick Santorum is a FAKE!
vanity | 04/11/2005 | Duane Call

Posted on 04/11/2005 1:10:23 PM PDT by NraFreedom

It would appear that Rick Santorum is trying to make himself appear as a closet Liberal. According to cited sources, he has "proposed raising the minimum wage; suggested that the death penalty be reserved for the most dangerous of killers; voted with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., on curbing sex and violence in the media; and sided with Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., on a bill protecting religious freedom in the workplace."

Of course his real turn coat action of late has been his suggestion Sunday that "embattled House Majority Leader Tom DeLay needs to answer questions about his ethics and "let the people then judge for themselves."

What a traitorist tactic to take toward the agenda of the US President; not to mention this attack on one whom the "honorable" Senator has called friend.

No wonder the Rebublican Senators are so lacking in backbone, when the third most powerful Republican in the US Senate is the first to cave to opposition forces instead of being a man and keeping his mouth shut!

There is nothing in the Delay accusations that can hold water. It is the Democrats and the way they work. It is too bad that the Republicans in the Senate have learned nothing concerning teaching the truth to the voting public instead of turning on each other.

In my opinion, Rick Santorum should be sent home with a good whipping and a real man sent from his state to stand up for what is right instead of selling his own for staying in office!


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To: texasflower

Sometimes hysterics, as you refer to them, is the way to get the dead wood off the bottom of the swamp.

I do thank you for your critisizing as it appears to be constructive. How would you have made it less "hysterical?"


21 posted on 04/11/2005 1:34:44 PM PDT by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton should be charged, convicted and punished for the crime of Treason.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Your point?

The point is that Santorium is not just an average senator, but one of the best. Now, that might not speak much for that particular body but it is undeniable.

It is of absolutely no benefit if he goes and a extraordianary loss if his Dem opponent (a faux conservative Dem) replaces him

I bash my Senators mercilessly.

Santorum cannot even be mentioned in the same breath as your two senators. SPECTER could not even be mentioned in the same breath.

Washington's senators are the worst in the nation. Worse than Boxer & Feinstein. Worse than Kerry & Kennedy. The reason they win in your state is because "conservatives" there will stay home or vote third party rather than a flawed Republican.

I really don't want to lose Santorum to that type of thinking.

And as senators go, Santorum is almost flawless.

22 posted on 04/11/2005 1:41:57 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: NraFreedom
You're exactly right. He backed Specter after he was bombarded with millions of calls and e-mails, and now he's out to destroy one of the only real conservatives in DC.

We NEED Tom DeLay, and if what Santorum did causes his removal, I will send money to support who ever seeks to recall/impeach or unseat him. He's a traitor, IMO!

23 posted on 04/11/2005 1:42:00 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

The article very clearly states it is a vanity. :-)


24 posted on 04/11/2005 1:43:50 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: NraFreedom; All
HERE IS ONE OF THE ARTICLES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT:

Is Santorum Getting a Political Makeover?

In recent weeks, Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Penn., has called on Republican leader Tom DeLay to explain the ethical questions surrounding him; proposed raising the minimum wage; suggested that the death penalty be reserved for the most dangerous of killers; voted with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., on curbing sex and violence in the media; and sided with Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., on a bill protecting religious freedom in the workplace.

Business as usual, explains Santorum, but pundits suggest the junior senator from Pennsylvania is shifting left while ramping up to his ’06 campaign for a third term, according to a report in The Morning Call.

Santorum, chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, remains the Democrats’ top incumbent target in 2006 – with early polls showing Casey ahead or dead even with the incumbent.

As to his unlikely alliances with Clinton and Kerry, Santorum said no sea-change there: "If you find some common ground, you seize it.”

As to backing off capital punishment, Santorum explains that it had nothing to do with political expediencies but the number of convictions overturned with DNA evidence that convinced him the penalty should be used sparingly.

"I don't run around looking to do the politically sensitive thing or what the polls tell me,” Santorum said.

Such was apparently the case when Santorum visited the late Terri Shiavo’s father shortly before her death. Polls were showing that the majority of Americans opposed Congress getting involved.

"I did it because I thought it was the right thing to do,” Santorum said of his involvement. "That's what motivates me.”

But Democratic Party officials like Phil Singer, spokesman for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, charge that the new face is all about next year's Senate showdown with Democrat Bob Casey, the state treasurer and son of former Gov. Robert P. Casey.

"There's a lot of talk aimed at softening his hard edges,” said Singer, "But when push comes to shove, he goes the other way.”

As to one of those reported hard edges, his support of cuts in Medicaid, Santorum doesn’t appear to be shifting anywhere. While seven Republican senators crossed party lines to restore the funding, Santorum has remained firm, saying Medicaid's growth is unsustainable.

"If governors are that pathetic in not finding savings in this program of four-tenths of 1 percent over five years, then shame on the governors,” Santorum retorted. "That's the way I look at it.”

Pennsylvania political analysts G. Terry Madonna and Mike Young dispute Santorum’s explanations that he simply votes his conscience, pointing out that in their opinion the senator has a history of moving to the left just before elections.

"He's a cultural conservative,” Madonna said, "but people don't understand how pragmatic and politically opportunistic he can be.”

Furthermore, Madonna argues that Democrats underestimate his pragmatic side in their zeal to highlight Santorum as an ideological zealot.

That pragmatic side has thus far been useful to Santorum:


25 posted on 04/11/2005 1:44:49 PM PDT by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: NraFreedom
It would appear that Rick Santorum is trying to make himself appear as a closet Liberal.

voted with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y

Seems to be a growing trend. Lindsey Graham from South Carolina has decided to ride the Hillary wave.

And the Republicans are running from DeLay like rats from a sinking ship.

Hey boys! We didn't send you to Washington to become limp wristed pseudo-liberals cowering from Kennedy, Klinton and Kerry.

Grow a set (a least as big as Hillary's) or you'll be coming home after the next election cycle.

26 posted on 04/11/2005 1:44:55 PM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: NraFreedom

Thank you for realizing that I am trying to be constructive.

Since you asked, here's what I think. First of all, get rid of all the exclamation points. That's where it looks hysterical to me.

Then cut out the cliches and "catch phrases". You could easily make your point without them.

Honestly I'm not too bothered by Santorum saying that DeLay should answer the questions and let the facts stand.

If he's innocent, then that will clear him and if he's not, then that will be known also and then the voters will decide what to do.

But I do understand your underlying point that Republicans tend not to stand up for one another.

Anyway, that's what I think, cut the exclamation points and get rid of stuff like "closet liberal".



27 posted on 04/11/2005 1:45:31 PM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: texasflower

No, it doesn't. It is a well written, truthful, vanity, as it clearly states.


28 posted on 04/11/2005 1:46:14 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: NraFreedom
"proposed raising the minimum wage; suggested that the death penalty be reserved for the most dangerous of killers; voted with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., on curbing sex and violence in the media; and sided with Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., on a bill protecting religious freedom in the workplace."

"Raising the minumum wage" ..., well, for starters, I would want to see the exact details and context where this occurred. Senator Santorum's support in this regard might be a compromise on larger legislation, or it might be a kow-tow to his constituents in rust-belt PA- Senators do that every now and then, you know... especially when they're going to run for re-election against populist demagogues.

As for the death penalty- as a very devout Catholic, why would Santorum NOT be entitled to be uneasy with the death penalty and want to see it applied only in extreme cases...are you suggesting "conservatives" want to make the death penality easy? I mean, Santorum's NOT proposing the Dukakis alternative solution of releasing hard criminals on the public
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And what's wrong with curbing sex and violence in the media and preserving religious freedom in the workplace? Maybe Hillary and Kerry sided with Santorum instead of the other way around.....such positions don't make Santorum a libertarian but they sure don't make him a "liberal", either.

My fellow conservatives, be VEWWY VEWWY careful of unsubstantiated, out of context, or hysterical diatribes against Senator Santorum. He's one of the good guys! He publicly supported and voted for impeachment of Hillary Rodham's mate and just last November, PA was perilously close to becoming a red state before the Philly miracle occurred...turning sludge into votes. Thus Senator Santorum has a HUGE bullseye painted on his political career by the DNC.
29 posted on 04/11/2005 1:46:15 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: NraFreedom
There are articles in both WorldNetDaily and NewsMax. I state that in my post.

It doesn't look like it. Do you know how to make a hyperlink?

Also, I think my point is that one "good" guy is harping on another good guy

Actually your point is that "Rick Santorum should be sent home with a good whipping and a real man sent from his state", which is a very bad thing to bring up considering the effort being made by the left to get rid of him.

30 posted on 04/11/2005 1:47:40 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: texasflower
I think I must add that I am not a professional journalist. I am simply a citizen of the United States that is tired of all the backbiting to "stay in my Senate seat" that I see from all those Republican Senators that did not have enough backbone to hold a real trial or give a fair hearing (as the US Constitution requires) to the House Representatives bringing suit against a corrupt US President.

These are the same men who are threatening to "go nuclear" and change the rules of the Senate.

Now, Rick Santorum might not know how to defeat a filibuster but there are Republican Senators in that honorable body that do know how to do it. If they will just grow backbones and get organized and do it. And, I might state that if the Repubs do "go nuclear" and change the rules then there will be a time when they are no longer in power and will have to use the filibuster just as the Dems are now.

All this talk is nonsense! We did not send those men back there to jack their jaws: we sent them to do a job and to stand for what is right, not what is politically expedient at the moment.

31 posted on 04/11/2005 1:48:57 PM PDT by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton should be charged, convicted and punished for the crime of Treason.)
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To: Tribune7
Your "my Senators are better than yours" nonsense is infantile. Of course they are, and I never suggested otherwise. You act as if I'm attacking all Pennsylvanians when I attack Santorum. Again, lose your (ultra) thin skin.

And your "Santorium is one of the best Senators" assertion is only accurate if you're talking about the Senate as a whole. As far as GOP Senators are concerned, he's not even close.

32 posted on 04/11/2005 1:50:22 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: fatnotlazy

fatnotlazy: Since Mar 23, 2005


33 posted on 04/11/2005 1:50:27 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: NRA2BFree

Wow, nice response. I almost missed it in there with all the meely-mouthing going on about my post not being proper and all.

It is nice to gain the acquaintence of one who speaks his mind and puts his money where his mouth is.

BTW, I like your handle. Somehow, it seems a bit familiar. LOL


34 posted on 04/11/2005 1:53:10 PM PDT by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton should be charged, convicted and punished for the crime of Treason.)
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To: NraFreedom

I don't disagree with you on most of that.

I don't see that comment from Santorum as being so bad, but do understand the context of your complaint.

Others might not understand the context, so maybe you could tell them?


35 posted on 04/11/2005 1:54:09 PM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: Tribune7
How about a link? It's not Santorum's job to defend Delay, and it's not a good idea for us to help the spin provided by hostile questioners.

It's a vanity and they don't have links. Santorum is NOT defending DeLay, he's sabotaging him.

Santorum is a good guy (as is Delay.) Rather than fall for the left's divide and conquer plan let's stick up for both.

Santorum is NOT a good guy. He's out to destroy DeLay who IS a Conservative and on OUR side.

36 posted on 04/11/2005 1:54:11 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Of course they are, and I never suggested otherwise. You act as if I'm attacking all Pennsylvanians when I attack Santorum.

There have been Freepers who have been harshly critical of Santorum in recent weeks. Some are Pennsylvanians still upset about the Toomey race. Some are just natural crumudgeons. Some are trolls. The left has made getting rid of him a high priority. This is not the time to help them or demand purity.

You want to bash Specter, feel free.

37 posted on 04/11/2005 1:54:32 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: NraFreedom

i vote republican.

but delay left himself open to attack.

a prudent person would have acted accordingly, regardless of what senator reid does. senator reid's a democrat and can count on the media to ignore his mis-doings. delay cannot.


38 posted on 04/11/2005 1:57:03 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: NRA2BFree
Santorum is NOT defending DeLay, he's sabotaging him.

Really? And I'm supposed to believe this because of a vanity? NraFreedom doesn't even provide a cite. He says he cited Newsmax & WND. I don't see it.

Is Santorum making speeches against DeLay or is he being sandbagged with questions from media-types? Or do you think that doesn't make a difference?

39 posted on 04/11/2005 1:59:28 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: NRA2BFree

Sorry, I disagree.

Did you write this for WND or are you commenting on a WND article?


40 posted on 04/11/2005 1:59:47 PM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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