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It's Happening Again (We've Got Another Schiavo, Starving In GA, No Brain-Damage)
Media Release | 4-6-05 | The Family of Mae Magouirk

Posted on 04/07/2005 2:59:57 AM PDT by schmelvin

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To: nicmarlo

"Maybe you could correspond with this guy and tell him, based on your standards, he shouldn't be allowed to stay alive."

Maybe. Just what are my standards. Do tell.


761 posted on 04/08/2005 6:06:17 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: HairOfTheDog

Just FYI if you are interested in being allowed to live even if you are disabled, you need a Will to Live, not a Living Will. A Living Will is a license to kill you outright or starve you. See the National Right to Life to obtain a Will to Live form.


762 posted on 04/08/2005 6:06:52 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Click on my name to see what readers have said about my Christian novels!)
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To: Netizen
It has been proffered that this a conveniently edited tape representing involuntary movements for the purpose of supporting the Schindler position. You are free to interpret it as you wish.
763 posted on 04/08/2005 6:07:52 AM PDT by verity (A mindset is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: mhking

Can you kindly join us here on this thread about Mae Magouirk of LaGrange Georgia?


764 posted on 04/08/2005 6:10:03 AM PDT by ExPatInFrance (JUDGE GREER: LAST RITES INSTEAD OF CIVIL RIGHTS, "The Law of the case is she is going to Die!")
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Thank you, but I think I have a good handle on this.


765 posted on 04/08/2005 6:10:04 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

That's fine that you and your husband decided that...Terri didn't.


766 posted on 04/08/2005 6:10:12 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: schmelvin
"Mae Magouirk IS NOT comatose and she IS NOT vegetative. She is not terminal!"

Then why is she NOT demanding to be fed?


767 posted on 04/08/2005 6:11:01 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Smartaleck

reread your own posts; it's quite apparent.


768 posted on 04/08/2005 6:11:38 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: freepertoo

They're trying to redirect this thread back to the topic.


769 posted on 04/08/2005 6:11:52 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: freepertoo
"That's fine that you and your husband decided that...Terri didn't."

Sure she did. To three people. And a judge heard their sworn testimony in a court of law, subject to cross examination and perjury, and concluded that he had "clear and convincing" evidence as to Terri's wishes and ordered the feeding tube removed.

Why are you lying?

770 posted on 04/08/2005 6:14:32 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: maine-iac7
She is in there and being killed because our lovely friends, George Felos, George Greer, Michael Shciavo, and Deborah Bushnell just proved to the world the you can easily kill your relatives when you get tired of them.
771 posted on 04/08/2005 6:15:06 AM PDT by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheople! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: Gondring

Evil laws are meant to be challenged. I cannot BELIEVE that you put the Golden Rule in with laws to kill people. That is just plain obscene.


772 posted on 04/08/2005 6:15:22 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: PhilDragoo
awesome news phil
773 posted on 04/08/2005 6:16:17 AM PDT by russesjunjee (Shake the fog from your eyes sheople! Our country is swirling down the sewer!)
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To: robertpaulsen

All I can say to that is, ROFL!


774 posted on 04/08/2005 6:16:55 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Gondring
Forget about PVS and Cranford and Greer and Felos. Forget the Schindlers' motifivations and Schiavo's moving on. There is only one question in this and any dependency case. A much brighter, clearer thinker than I asked:

What do we owe those who are not dead or dying but profoundly disabled and permanently dependent? And even if such individuals made their desires clearly known while they were still competent, is it always right to follow their instructions--to be the executors of their living wills--even if it means being their willing executioners?

How Liberalism Failed Terri Schiavo

775 posted on 04/08/2005 6:20:41 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Click on my name to see what readers have said about my Christian novels!)
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To: ExPatInFrance
Just wanted to let you know that I used your link to send an e-mail to Ms. Lovejoy of the local LaGrange Newspaper. Thanks for providing that link. From time to time you might want to re-post so people dont'have to dig to far back to find it. I sent in a very nice letter, I copied the e-mail form the nephew as will as the link to the World net Daily articls. I ended it by saying, "I see that Forced Euthanasia has come you yur community..."

Great line: "I see that..."

I haven't heard anything back yet - but it is early...will let y'all know if I get an answer:

email to LaGrange Daily News:

alovejoy@lagrangenews.com

editor: Andrea Lovejoy

776 posted on 04/08/2005 6:20:54 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: gardencatz

Tis complicated.

She was initially in a coma. Anything is an improvement from that. No, we can't be certain about the PVS, but there is a lot of evidence to suggest she was.

In thinking about said improvements consider. Only 15% of those who experience oxygen deprevation to the brain recover and those that do have extreme disabilities. After 3 months the possibility of recovery drops quickly and the chances after a year are about zip. After 15 years?

I'm not sure what to make of what she would or wouldn't have wanted. In the end it's a matter of he said she said and as outside observers we only have a glimps of what was said and the summaries made by the court.

Regardless, it appears that the FL law allows MS and Greer to make the decisions they made? If this isn't right, then the law needs to be changed.

I don't know that Greer relied solely on the opinions of the 5 doctors in his court summary. If you go back and look at her discharge summary for example, there are other doctors who saw her and still more who treated her over the years. Hence, it wasn't just the word of 3 doctors who saw her and observed her severe brain damage.


777 posted on 04/08/2005 6:23:05 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: mother22wife21; Netizen

"but they are just baiting you."

Good point mother. Funny how some bait others into a side conversation.

Then again, anyone know if the judge in the Mae Magouirk case sees well, any maladies that might affect his judgement?


778 posted on 04/08/2005 6:31:46 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: freepertoo
"All I can say to that is, ROFL!"

I agree.

779 posted on 04/08/2005 6:31:55 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Gondring

"too many lies on FR lately have made many wary."

Speculation and incorrect information even.

Getting overly involved at this point is kind of like diving into a pool without looking to see if there's water.


780 posted on 04/08/2005 6:35:55 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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