It's Happening Again (We've Got Another Schiavo, Starving In GA, No Brain-Damage)

Media Release | 4-6-05 | The Family of Mae Magouirk

[nicmarlo]

My one grandma lived until 97. I loved her very much. She was healthy up until the last few months before she died...had cataract operations and hip surgeries and healed up as good as new. She wanted to live to be 100...that was her dream. I have many fond memories of her.

My other grandma wasn't as healthy, but I'd go take care of her after her stroke; she lived in an apartment...I'd go clean on the weekends. She had to go to a home...as she just had to be watched all the time (had a pace maker and was just very fragile in health); I was in high school then. She used to make me laugh...trying to act so tough..but she was a good woman, very good woman.

I miss them both.

I just can't understand how someone would want to kill their grandma.

[ExPatInFrance]

Wneighbor, You have volunteered to do the most thankless job of all. Keeping up a Save Mae form Forced Euthansia ping list and using it as needed.

I personally will be eternally grateful if you would do that. Many many thanks.

[maine-iac7]

How about David Boise

DO NOT like the man, but like you said, he did seem to be on Terri's side - and he is a brilliant lawyer.

Also, he can, if this issue gets to that in future, argue in the SCOTUS, (I don't believe Randall can) with legislation that will put the breaks on this death-by-fiat. The dark side will fight any such legislation to the death - no pun intended -

[ExPatInFrance]

russ,

it seemed like you wanted to help so I proposed wither collect pobuish and advocate contacting the Politicains for Georgia OR contact randal terry to get tips and advice form him and he might have some good contact info.

Were you able to do either one of these? If so which one.
I ahve to go to bed shortly and I wanted to do a round up post showing everybody with their action itme.

[ExPatInFrance]

You wrote:
How about David Boise
DO NOT like the man, but like you said, he did seem to be on Terri's side - and he is a brilliant lawyer.

Also, he can, if this issue gets to that in future, argue in the SCOTUS, (I don't believe Randall can) with legislation that will put the breaks on this death-by-fiat. The dark side will fight any such legislation to the death - no pun intended -

My Reply: Well how about if we ask djreece to contact him, since you are already doing Georgia media.
I think djreece seems like s/he would be able to do that, s/he seems pretty sharp.

[Wneighbor]

I just can't understand how someone would want to kill their grandma.

Me neither. My Grama raised me. I was able to spend the last coupla weeks of her life with her in the hospital 24/7. I wouldn't change it for the world. We had some great talks and a few laughs. She laughed more than me but I remember that so happily now.

My other grandmother is still alive. I have never known her very well. But, to do this!! No way. Just no way.

[russesjunjee]

I am posting the contact info for Georgia legislature. I will get it posted before I go to bed...At least the email addies.

I'm not russ..lol...I'm his junj(Pet name for wife)

[russesjunjee]

Contact info for Georgia House
Roberta Abdul-Salaam rsalaam@legis.state.ga.us
Amos Amerson hamerson@alltel.net
Alberta Jacqueline Anderson aanderso@legis.state.ga.us
Kathy Ashe kathyashe56@mindspring.com
Terry E. Barnard tbarnard@legis.state.ga.us
Mike Barnes repmikebarnes@aol.com
Tim Bearden bearden4house@aol.com
Sharon Beasley-Teague steague@legis.state.ga.us
Stephanie Stuckey Benfield stuckey@mindspring.com
Tommy Benton tbenton@legis.state.ga.us
Ellis Black ellblack@surfsouth.com
Tom Bordeaux tbordeau@legis.state.ga.us
Ron Borders rborders@legis.state.ga.us
Ben D. Bridges, Sr. bbridges@legis.state.ga.us
Tyrone L. Brooks, Sr. tbrooks@legis.state.ga.us
Jeff Brown jbrown@legis.state.ga.us
Roger B. Bruce rbruce5347@aol.com
Bob Bryant bbryant@legis.state.ga.us
Debbie Buckner dbuckner@legis.state.ga.us
Gail M. Buckner gbuckner@legis.state.ga.us
Mark Burkhalter mburkhal@legis.state.ga.us
Sue Burmeister subrmyster@aol.com
Jon G. Burns jburns@legis.state.ga.us
Mark Butler mbutler@legis.state.ga.us
Charlice H. Byrd charbyrd@legis.state.ga.us
Buddy Carter bcarter331@aol.com
David S. Casas dcasas@legis.state.ga.us
Jill Chambers jchamber@legis.state.ga.us
Mickey Channell mickey@legis.state.ga.us
Mike Cheokas mcheokas@legis.state.ga.us
Mike Coan mcoan@legis.state.ga.us
Jim Cole jcole@legis.state.ga.us
Brooks P. Coleman, Jr. bcoleman@legis.state.ga.us
Terry Coleman tcoleman@legis.state.ga.us
Sharon Cooper scooper@legis.state.ga.us
Clay Cox asc647@bellsouth.net
Mack Crawford mcrawfor@legis.state.ga.us
Bill Cummings bcumming@legis.state.ga.us
Steve Davis sdavis@legis.state.ga.us
Burke Day bday@legis.state.ga.us
Douglas C. Dean ddean@legis.state.ga.us
Tom Dickson tdickson@legis.state.ga.us
Ron Dodson dodson.ron@worldnet.att.net
Matt Dollar mdollar@legis.state.ga.us
Karla Lea Drenner dren16999@aol.com
Winfred J. Dukes wdukes@legis.state.ga.us
Earl Ehrhart eaeh@facilitygroup.com
Terry Lamar England englandhomeport2@aol.com
Carl Von Epps cepps@legis.state.ga.us
Barry A. Fleming bfleming@legis.state.ga.us
Hugh Floyd hfloyd@legis.state.ga.us
Johnny Floyd jfloyd@legis.state.ga.us
Virgil Fludd vfludd@legis.state.ga.us
Ronald L. Forster rforster@legis.state.ga.us
Bobby Franklin bfrankli@legis.state.ga.us
Allen G. Freeman agfreeman@cox.net
Pat Gardner pat@patgardner.org
Harry Geisinger hgeising@legis.state.ga.us
Rich Golick rgolick@legis.state.ga.us
David B. Graves repdavidgraves@hotmail.com
Tom Graves tgraves@legis.state.ga.us
Gerald E. Greene ggreene@legis.state.ga.us
Bob Hanner bhanner@legis.state.ga.us
Ben L. Harbin bharbin@legis.state.ga.us
Mark Hatfield mhatfield@legis.state.ga.us
John Wilson Heard jheard@legis.state.ga.us
Keith Heard kheard@legis.state.ga.us
Joe Heckstall jhecksta@legis.state.ga.us
Bill Hembree bhembree@legis.state.ga.us
Michele D. Henson mhenson@legis.state.ga.us
Calvin Hill chill@legis.state.ga.us
Cecily A. Hill cecilyh@legis.state.ga.us
Bob Holmes bholmes@cau.edu
Doug Holt doug@dougholt.org
Billy Horne gahouse71@yahoo.com
Penny Houston phouston@legis.state.ga.us
Henry Lee Howard hhoward@legis.state.ga.us
Sistie Hudson sistiehudson@aol.com
Carolyn Fleming Hugley chugley@legis.state.ga.us
Lester Jackson ljackson@legis.state.ga.us
Mike Jacobs mike@meetmikejacobs.com
Lynmore James ljames@legis.state.ga.us
Jeanette Jamieson jjamieso@legis.state.ga.us
Charles F. Jenkins charlesj@legis.state.ga.us
Paul Jennings pjenning2@legis.state.ga.us
Terry Johnson terryjohnson@cobb.net
Jan Jones janjones38@bellsouth.net
Sheila Jones info@sheilajones.org
Darryl Jordan djordan@legis.state.ga.us
Jerry Keen jlkeen@bellsouth.net
Mike Keown mkfnbc@rose.net
Jane Kidd jbvkidd@aol.com
David Knight dknight@legis.state.ga.us
Tom Knox tknox@legis.state.ga.us
Dan Lakly dlakly@mindspring.com
Bob Lane blane@legis.state.ga.us
Roger Bert Lane rogerlane167@hotmail.com
Jeff Lewis jlewis@legis.state.ga.us
Edward Lindsey elindsey@legis.state.ga.us
Jimmy Lord jlord@legis.state.ga.us
Barry Loudermilk barry@barryloudermilk.com
David E. Lucas, Sr. dlucas@legis.state.ga.us
John Lunsford jlunsford@legis.state.ga.us
Gene Maddox topdrawer@mchsi.com
Randal Mangham rmangham@legis.state.ga.us
Judy Manning judymanning@bellsouth.net
Pedro Marin marinstatehouse@aol.com
Chuck Martin chuck@martinforgeorgia.com
Howard R. Maxwell hmaxwell@legis.state.ga.us
Jeff May jmay@legis.state.ga.us
Tom McCall tmccall@legis.state.ga.us
JoAnn McClinton jmcclinton@legis.state.ga.us
John D. Meadows, III jmeadows@legis.state.ga.us
Fran Millar fran_millar@palmercay.com
Phyllis Miller pmiller@legis.state.ga.us
James Mills jmills@legis.state.ga.us
Billy Mitchell mitchell@legis.state.ga.us
Alisha Thomas Morgan alisha@alishamorgan.com
Greg Morris gmorris@legis.state.ga.us
Howard Mosby mosb7101@hotmail.com
Hinson Mosley hmosley@legis.state.ga.us
Robert F. Mumford rmumford@legis.state.ga.us
Jack Murphy jmurphy@legis.state.ga.us
Quincy Murphy qmurphy@legis.state.ga.us
Jay Neal jneal@legis.state.ga.us
Mary Margaret Oliver moliver@legis.state.ga.us
Larry O'Neal loneal@legis.state.ga.us
Nan Grogan Orrock norrock@legis.state.ga.us
Bobby Parham bparham@legis.state.ga.us
Larry "Butch" Parrish lparrish@legis.state.ga.us
Don Parsons don@donparsons.net
DuBose Porter dporter@legis.state.ga.us
Alan Powell alanpowell23@hotmail.com
David Ralston dralston1@tds.net
Nikki T. Randall nrandall@legis.state.ga.us
Robert Ray rray@legis.state.ga.us
Barbara Massey Reece breece@legis.state.ga.us
Stacey G. Reece sreece@legis.state.ga.us
Bobby Clifford Reese bobby_reese@bellsouth.net
Tom Rice trice@legis.state.ga.us
Glenn Richardson grichard@legis.state.ga.us
Jay Roberts jayroberts@alltel.net
Carl Rogers crogers@legis.state.ga.us
A. Richard Royal rroyal@legis.state.ga.us
Ed Rynders erynders@legis.state.ga.us
Ron Sailor, Jr. rsailor@legis.state.ga.us
Chuck Scheid chuckscheid@msn.com
Austin Scott ascott@legis.state.ga.us
Martin Scott mscott@legis.state.ga.us
Ed Setzler lesetzler@mactec.com
Jay Shaw jshaw@legis.state.ga.us
Donna Sheldon dsheldon@legis.state.ga.us
Chuck Sims dawg4116@aol.com or csims@legis.state.ga.us
Freddie Powell Sims fsims@legis.state.ga.us
Georganna T. Sinkfield gsinkfie@legis.state.ga.us
Bob Smith smith98@bellsouth.net
Lynn Ratigan Smith lysmith@legis.state.ga.us
Paul E. Smith psmith@legis.state.ga.us
Richard H. Smith richard@smithforgeorgia.com
Tommy Smith tsmith@legis.state.ga.us
Vance Smith, Jr. vsmith@legis.state.ga.us
Calvin Smyre CONTACT calvinsmyre@synovus.com
LaNett Stanley-Turner Ron Stephens quickrxdrg@aol.com
Pam Stephenson pstephen@legis.state.ga.us
Willie Lee Talton wtalton@legis.state.ga.us
Rob Teilhet rteilhet@yahoo.com
"Able" Mable Thomas mthomas@legis.state.ga.us
Brian W. Thomas bthomas@legis.state.ga.us
Steve "Thunder" Tumlin stevetumlin@bellsouth.net
Len Walker lwalker@nfumc.org
Pete Warren petewarren99@comcast.net
Stan Watson staxx@bellsouth.net
Joe Wilkinson jwilkins@legis.state.ga.us
Wendell Willard wkwillard@hotmail.com
"Coach" Williams ewilliam@legis.state.ga.us
Al Williams caw@coastalnow.net
Roger Williams wroger@alltel.net
Don Wix dwix@mindspring.com
John P. Yates jyates@legis.state.ga.us

[Wneighbor]

Not thankless. This is something I can keep up with throughout the day even though I don't have an opportunity to read and post as much as I would like. Fits my situation here. :-) This, and prayer.

[ExPatInFrance]

Yeah your own grandma. Although it looks like granddaughter is the only heir, since grandma outlived her husband and her son.... rad into that what you will....

It jsu makes me sick, not comatose, not PVS, goes in for a heart problem and girly says grandma should go to Jesus now...

[Fiat volvntas tva]

I believe - there has to be some sharper ones

Bob Barr comes to mind, and I think he is back in private practice in the Atlanta area.

[nicmarlo]

Grandmas are very good at telling stories (true or otherwise, lol)! : )

[maine-iac7]

Here we go again……. Lone Star Times, TX - 23 minutes ago

Fantastic!

This has caught fire - hopefully in time to save Mae - but, either way, this 'death-by-fiat' has got to be exposed to the light - BRIGHT light.

It's the only way to defeat darkness - and it always trumps the dark. Dark has no source of it's own, and can only exist where there is no light.

So get your flashlights search lights out, folks, and stock up on batteries

[ExPatInFrance]

We gotta get pegita and pollywog to be prayer warriors for May.

ladies are you out there?

[MHGinTN]

Bobby Lee Cook, Summerville, GA ... they don't come with any better credentials than his. Todd Johnson, Cohutta, GA is an associate, so contacting him first might help get things really rolling on Mae's behalf. ... Tell Todd that Marvin Galloway gave his name; Todd's wife is also a strong attorney.

[ExPatInFrance]

Well I guess that pretty much answers that question!!!

[4Godsoloved..Hegave]

Sorry I can't answer your questions. Nick seemed overwhelmed with the volume of calls. He also was very appreciative of the outpouring of interest.

[gardencatz]

Volumes of hearsay evidence?


It's no more heresay than the "evidence" that she wanted to die. The problem is, no matter how many times you review these statements, his family says they remember Terri saying she wouldn't want to be kept alive by artificial means, her family saying she wouldn't want to die, others who remember MS saying he had no idea what she would want because they never discussed it. There's also the conundrum of "food & water" not legally considered treatment at the when Terri made her alleged statements (I certainly don't think of food and water when I think of artificial means) and the matter of her religion which forbids ending one's life this way. Her husband says her religion wasn't that important to her, but her actions tell a different story as she went to church weekly (IIRC she had even been to church the night of her collapse).

While Greer did rule in favor of MS, we do know that one of the people testifying on the "life" side had her testimony discounted because he had confused the dates. He says this wouldn't have made a difference, but one of the reasons he deemed the Schindler's POV less credible is because he had few definitive statements Terri made to them or her friends when she was an adult...his "mistake" meant that this friend's very clear recollection wasn't even considered. Even so, what it boils down to is that it's all heresay. The only two people who didn't have a vested interest were the guardians ad litem. While they did not come to the same conclusions regarding Terri's right to live or die, the one area they did agree on is that, because of his 2nd family, MS shouldn't be given guardianship because it was a conflict of interest. On the other side, there's MS's contention that the Schindlers only wanted Terri kept alive because of the money. As her guardianship would have been given to her brother, her parents wouldn't have been given access to what remained of her funds anyway. But, had there been any doubt, Greer could have chosen a third party to manage her money. It's done all the time, as a probate judge, he would be well aware of this.

We also can't be certain that Terri was PVS. Since she wasn't given the full battery of tests necessary for a diagnosis it's pretty obvious that doctors on both sides could only make their "best" guess (though to their credit, at least the Schindler's doctors requested these tests be performed). We do know that before her therapy was stopped, Terri was making progress. This is verified by her medical records, it's not heresay. Incidentally, eventhough MS had all therapy stopped, this was a violation of the law which requires all disabled people to receive occupational and/or physical therapy. At this point, we can only speculate whether or not continued progess would have been made. There are just too many unknowns to be making such a permanent decision about another person's life. Unless she regained full consciousness (a possibility since there are documented cases) it would never be too late to rule Terri should die, but there did come a point when it became too late for her to live. Had Greer ordered ALL necessary tests performed on Terri (hopefully by a neutral doctor who didn't favor one side or the other), or even had therapy continued so there would be a record of her progress (or lack of) Judge Greer's decision (and the rubberstamping by the rest of the judiciary) wouldn't have seemed as suspect. If judges have the power of life or death over their fellow citizens, then they better base their decisions on the very best and most up to date information available. Consider it overly emotional if you wish, but I believe his obligation was greater in Terri's case because she was unable to speak for herself.

Cindie

[hocndoc]

For more than you ever wanted to know about the euthanasia movement, George Soros, and the Robert Woods Johnson Foundation, see

http://www.lifetree.org/timeline.html

[Wneighbor]

Side topic. I know we've established that Mae is in Georgia and this is a Georgia matter but my daughter is in Alabama. Not too terribly far from Anniston where someone said the siblings and nephew lived. And I think someone said Mae is from there. So, would it help if I contacted my daughter in Alabama tomorrow and asked her to make some Alabama legislative calls tomorrow. Also, maybe she could report elderly abuse in Alabama. After the discussions that our family has had over Terri, I feel fairly certain that my daughter would do it.