Posted on 04/07/2005 2:59:57 AM PDT by schmelvin
I'm confused - where and when did I make any such assertion?
Uh...Ken did! In fact quite a few folks, including you in an earlier post took credit, and some how apparently thought all this hullabaloo beginning Thursday here somehow impacted something that had happened the Monday before.
I DID query as to why the doctors would have determined Mae was NOT terminal and had her airlifted to a hospital for medical treatment were it not so?
Right or wrong, you gave the impression that Ken's actions (post hearing) somehow resulted in the ultimate conclusion. In fact what you said was that the doctors were deliberately dragging their feet, and that Ken somehow got things straightened out. Now that could only have come from the activities to free granny, which would have to include the 5 or 6 threads started here along with about a hundred other blogs, and those of you who called it a "win".
Are you deliberately trying to confuse the issue - or did you not read with comprehension?
Fair question. Any effort to confuse the issue at this stage would have been greatly overshadowed by the misinformation posted here on Thursday and Friday. And I attempt to read with comprehension, but it is rarely successful in dealing with the incomprehensible. After all, in an earlier post on this thread, I believe you credited this "win" to "us", whoever that would be, by stating "we may just have won this one". It is hard to win if you're not in the game.
Thank you. Any chance of a link to it?
Thanks much. Wish we had had it a few days ago.
Thanks much. I think it will be linked if not posted shortly.
wanna back that up?
are you the "judgmc" for today -
You Wrote: There is NO DOUBT the palliative care profession has been infiltrated by Euthanasia enthusiasts as was obvious during the many interviews of these people during Terri's final hours.
My Reply: YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It sounds like Judge Boyd is not the problem here. Either that or he's in CYA mode.
Is it true that he only gave Gaddy a TEMPORARY guardianship? And, now that it's questionable whether or not Gaddy truly has Mae's best interests at heart, why can't the judge appoint one of Mae's siblings as her guardian instead? That's all he has to do to end this fiasco. Why doesn't he do it?
I got it from Sally--
SHE IS TERRIFIC!!
A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH!
Just taking a long time to get the files converted!
FORCED EUTHANASIA is Not a Religious or Replublican or Democratic Issue. It is a Human Rights Issue.
Now some persons with strong religious beliefs, may based on theri religious beliefs fight the good cause against Forced Euthanasia. The Main Stream Media wants to portray Terri's Supports ONLY as the Religious Right, and that demeens us. And they write about it in a deeming way.
However I have firmly believed and touted all over these message boards when people try to tie in politics, to nock it off, that Forced Euthanasia is not a Right or Left Issue, it is a Human Rights Issue. Standing against forced Euthanasia is Georgw . Bush, Jessy Jackson and what was the Jewish guy that was running with Gore, can't think fo his name right now, Men form divers political and Religious backgrounds all standing up against Forced Euthanasia.
Therefore I'll say it again, (yeah I'm on my soapbox and on a roll) Forced Euthanasia is a Human Rights Issue that crosses politcial parties. Bringing the converstaion to political parties demeens the struggle.
Shades of Michael Schiavo. The executioers always want the victim to not be seen by anybody. Hope kenneth takes pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best thing the Schindlers ever did.
OK, at this point (especially based on some of the confusion and suspicions that some FReepers are now having re: Ken's side of the story) I think Ken needs to get Mae's siblings up off their butts and out doing some interviews with him. Otherwise, it's his word against Gaddy's.
At the very least, he could have Glenn Beck call the family members to get their side of the story via a telephone interview or two. The rest of the family needs to speak up! I personally believe Ken is sincerely trying to protect Mae and that he really does perceive Beth Gaddy as a threat to her.
eeevil, is there any way you could contact Ken and tell him that the rest of the family needs to back him up and that they need to do this ON THE RECORD!
Yeah, Hospice says, there is your dinner tray, now eat.
Problem is some people are to sick to feed themselves.
So they do not "deny" food to anyone, however they WILL NOT put in a feeding tube becasue that is life prologing, and that is opposite to their mission statement.
Mae never should have been there in the first place.
His order was what the families agreed upon.
I think both Ken and Gaddy thought that the doctors would side with them.
After all- Kenneth's experience was doctors choosing life in this situation- the same situation as his mom.
Beth was told by the doctors to "let her die" (starve her to death!)
SO then when the doctors sided with Kenneth- I think Gaddy was none too happy.
I have to say- if they had sided with Beth-- I think Kenneth would have fought for Mae to get the care anyway-
No matter what- Beth denying visitation is LUDICROUS!
Hint: I am not iterested in reading your views.
Can't you find another thread where the people there would like to banter with you?
Youa re distarcting us on this Action Thread.
Is there any definate info on weather or not she really is getting food now? I cant believe the media isnt covering this story.
Just talked with Kenneth
He said he told the Judge that he formery worked for Congress.
I can see where this would be misinterpreted.
I think it was miscommunication.
Other things I learned- nothing real shocking- but off the record- so just stay tuned...
THe court hearing was not transcribed- it was recorded. there is more to say on this- but until I go listen to them for myself tomorrow am-- I will stop there.
Still working on getting those pages up-- please bear with me!
Did he say his mom was still stable?
per Kenneth- she is getting all she needs MEDICALLY.
YES! She is getting hydration and nutrition- I have no idea if it is orally or IV-- or tube-- don't know-- just know she is getting GOOD care geared towards LIFE- not death.
Im glad to here this that he wasnt just lieing! Been praying all day for mae!
Good the question is how long is this nutrition going to last!
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