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It's Happening Again (We've Got Another Schiavo, Starving In GA, No Brain-Damage)
Media Release | 4-6-05 | The Family of Mae Magouirk

Posted on 04/07/2005 2:59:57 AM PDT by schmelvin

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To: eeevil conservative

You did great catching this when you did....I'd sure want you on my side in a troubling time.
Who knows how this would have turned out if not brought to the public's attention.


1,441 posted on 04/09/2005 12:25:36 PM PDT by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: pickyourpoison

WE ALL DID THIS!!

IT WAS A TEAM!!

I would want ALL of YOU on MY SIDE AS WELL!


1,442 posted on 04/09/2005 12:28:25 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: eeevil conservative
Praise the Lord and pass the fluids!

Posession is 9/10ths of the law, according to the cliche, right? My guess is Mae will stay here in Birmingham.

Now we need to know all the details of how this deal went down.
1,443 posted on 04/09/2005 12:33:07 PM PDT by Sally
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To: eeevil conservative

WOW, awesome news! Let us know what happend and how she was taken out of the hopsice and who made it possible! Thank God!


1,444 posted on 04/09/2005 12:35:53 PM PDT by Halls
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To: Sally
Now we need to know all the details of how this deal went down.

I don't know that "we" need to know all of the details here. After all, there is private medical and family information to consider. If the information here is correct, Mrs. Magouirk is being moved to a hospital where she will be cared for. I would think that she is entitled to some privacy.

1,445 posted on 04/09/2005 12:36:53 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: judgemc
Now maby you will calm down.

LIFE is exciting. I would hope that, as a judge, you haven't become too jaded to appreciate that. I DO NOT mean that as an insult. Judges deal with the tragedies of life on a regular basis. It would be easy to become disillusioned.

1,446 posted on 04/09/2005 12:37:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Life is always the Right choice)
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To: eeevil conservative
MAE IS AT UAB HOSPITAL!!!

*bump*

Thank you. Prayers for her and family, for healing, and for an abundant measure of faith.

1,447 posted on 04/09/2005 12:38:35 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: .38sw

I think waht Sally meant- was knowing how the LAWS, etc- were able to let this situation occur.

We only got involved because a FAMILY member AKSED us to.

We ar not out looking for family tragedies to publicize.

We are not the media searching for the train wreck in order to get ratings.

We are just activists fighting for LIFE-- ASK US- AND WE WILL FIGHT!


1,448 posted on 04/09/2005 12:40:29 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: .38sw

Sorry to offend. I will henceforth speak only for myself. Rephrasing, *I* need to know the details. Of course I'm not referring to strictly private family matters. I mean the procedural and legal things. Aren't you intereted in whether the law was violated at different junctures? Aren't you interested in how Mae was admitted to a hospice without proper orders? Etc. etc. etc.


1,449 posted on 04/09/2005 12:43:46 PM PDT by Sally
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To: eeevil conservative

I bet Mae revisits her Last Will and Testament ;-) I know I would.


1,450 posted on 04/09/2005 12:43:53 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: All

MAE IS SAFE! MAE IS AT UAB! OUT OF HOSPICE!!

Kenneth called me and told me the news- but I want to share this email with you all!!

THANKS TO THE SUPPORT OF ALL OF THE FRIENDS OF TERRI, MY AUNT MAE MAGOUIRK HAS BEEN AIR LIFTED TO THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA-BIRMINGHAM MEDICAL CENTER

... and receiving IV fluids, nourishment and some of the finest medical care available in the United States!

Praise be the name of the Lord GOD...
Thanks to Terri's friends...
It would NEVER ever have been possible without bloggers who love life , and the truth!!

I am racing from my home to UAB now and will type a detailed update after I see my Aunt Mae!

Thanks guys, your calls, emails, blogs and prayers did it ALL!!!

I so love you guys!!!!!!!!!!

Ken Mullinax, nephew of Mae

IT IS NOT OVER YET - THE OPPOSITION IS STILL TRYING TO GET HER BACK TO THE HOSPICE - SO KEEP FIGHTING BLOGGERS!


1,451 posted on 04/09/2005 12:46:18 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: pickyourpoison

Florida set the standard. Hope they are proud. Mae's grandaughter stated how many people feel, and try to force the law to follow suit:

""Grandmama is old and I think it is time she went home to Jesus," Gaddy told Magouirk's brother and nephew, McLeod and Ken Mullinax. "She has glaucoma and now this heart problem, and who would want to live with disabilities like these?"


1,452 posted on 04/09/2005 12:49:04 PM PDT by tuckrdout (Is prayer your spare tire, or your steering wheel?)
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To: eeevil conservative
JEEEZE, It took a little time, but I think my prediction is unfolding before my eyes. I've been busy emailing and faxing and not on the board alot. WOW.

Is this still the action thread or the debate thread? Just wondering if I should post contact info. here and on the research thread or just the research thread?

1,453 posted on 04/09/2005 12:50:53 PM PDT by mother22wife21 ( "He's down by the river, walkin' on the water")
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To: Cboldt

Huh, hoooo YEAH!!! Leave whatever she has to the nephew!! Geez he must be a great guy. I only wish I could have done the same for my uncle in time.

I did not find out until he was gone, that the hospital refused to treat him.


1,454 posted on 04/09/2005 12:51:48 PM PDT by tuckrdout (Is prayer your spare tire, or your steering wheel?)
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To: eeevil conservative
He said that if "food and fluid was withdrawn at a time when they were perfectly capable of accepting it all because it was arbitrarily decided that it was time for them to die", it would amount to a policy that had been "totally unacceptable since the dark ages".

However, he said: "If it should transpire that food and fluids were withdrawn in good faith and in the not unreasonable belief that it was in their best interests as the lesser of two evils, committing them to die in as much comfort and dignity as possible. . . it would be grossly unfair to record a verdict other than that of death by natural causes."

legalese for "giant loophole?"

so as long as you kill then in "good faith" - it's acceptable?

Lord, save us from the legalese parsing of lawyers and judges - It "IS" murder

1,455 posted on 04/09/2005 12:53:28 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Sally

Procedures & legal matters, sure. I'm just concerned that people will be invading other's privacy.


1,456 posted on 04/09/2005 12:55:08 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: DJ MacWoW

It's not so much that you become jaded, but you realize after hearing the same arguments over and over, like you guys were hear, that the biggest problems are that teh two sides were not addressing the needs of the others. The grandaughter obviousley cares for teh grandmother or she would not of taken on the enourmous burden of caring for her. And I speak from personal experience with that. She probably thought that she was doing the right thing. "Let grandma go to Jesus." it's that what she said. Does that sound like an evil person? While you guys were trying to tell me Georgia law I was researching arotic dissections. The mortality rate for a woman of the grandmothers age is very, very high. Especially if there are other complications. That was what this young woman was hearing. Don't demonizer her for wanting to let her grandmother go. In her mind from teh information the doctors gave her. Her grandmother has a terminal condition in the grandaughters mind.

That brings me to the rest of the family. It is HIGHLY unusual for the family member who makes the medical decisions to not live in the same area as the person. I am going to hazzard a guess and say that they were problably not listed in the contact information the hospital had, or if the situation was critical, which at the moment of the dissection it would have been, where time was of the essence the hosptial will defer to the wishes of the family member that they have availble. Which is not against the law. Hospitals have that authority. All the regulations and codes that you have been so diligently posting only apply in emergency situations where the family is there.
Now afterwards, is a different story. Once the patient is stable in order for the other family members to assert thier rights they have to go to court and ask for them. Which is exactly what happened. and After readig the psot by the nephew, I would go back to my original premise that at some point before this incident the grandaughter had an ajudication in her favor or the nephew would not have said that he wanted her to turn legal authority over to him.


1,457 posted on 04/09/2005 12:55:26 PM PDT by judgemc (My judical sense is tingling)
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To: eeevil conservative

You are one heck of a great lady. God will bless you for all you have done. All I can do is send emails and make phone calls. You are out there gettin it done. You and Floriduh voter and all the others who are physically there are friends I am proud to know.


1,458 posted on 04/09/2005 12:55:38 PM PDT by Lovergirl (Terri..I don't personally know you but I love you.)
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To: tuckrdout; Cboldt

AMEN TO THAT!


1,459 posted on 04/09/2005 12:56:07 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: mother22wife21

LOL!!

I don't know what it turned into!

But right now-- I claim it to be a CELEBRATION THREAD!

WOOOOOO! HOOOOO!!!

we can get back to debating after a little snoopy dancing!


1,460 posted on 04/09/2005 12:57:15 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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