Letter of Compaint to Florida's Judicial Qualifications Commission to investiage Judge Greer

Letter from Officer Inspector General Florida DCF | 3-29-05 | Florida Dept. of Children & Families

[glory2]

"Under the Florida Constitution, only the Judicial Qualifications Commission has authority to investigate complaints against Florida judges. Persons wishing to file a complaint should address materials to: Judicial Qualifications Commission 1110 Thomasville Road Tallahassee, FL 32303 (850) 488-1581 No further action will be taken by this office. Sincerely, Heidi Huelskoetter, M.S.W. Operations & Mgmt. Consultant Manager Office of Inspector General Department of Children and Families 850-488-1225 fax 850-488-1428

[justshutupandtakeit]

And say what? "I don't like him." This charade is becoming more absurd with each passing day.

[firewalk]

Thanks for the ping
maybe he'll retire now...

[justshutupandtakeit]

They all ready are. Haven't you seen the crackpots with their signs attacking the Bushes for not trampling the law and decency enough?

[Diogenesis]

How wrong you are as usual, MindBender26.

It's about Judicial Murder and Extreme Torture under color of law.

It's about the fact that DEATH BY STARVATION was used by the Nazis for anyone daring to escape the Crematoria.

Now Florida is added to that list - under color of law.

FWIW the Judge, any Judge, or Jeb could have acted Sui Sponsis to save her life.

[justshutupandtakeit]

There you go letting rationality and common sense trump hysterical emotions. What is the matter with you?

[RedBloodedAmerican]

http://www.myflorida.com/myflorida/government/laws/documents/Bush_Brief.pdf

http://www.myflorida.com/myflorida/governorsoffice/pdfs/itn20050321.pdf

[RedBloodedAmerican]

The man is crazy, I tell you!

[Diogenesis]

Despite your noise, the evidence backs impropriety AND conspiracy.

Do you have one fact to support you OTHER than boot-strapping, disingenuity and rubber-stamping?

[RedBloodedAmerican]

It's the laws of the State that need changing. it's like two negatives equal a positive. Bad Judge and bad laws = final ruling. Greer and Whittemore are as liberal as they come. But there is not more that Governor Bush can do.

[Wolfstar]

Good day, Howlin and Onyx. While I was home for lunch (Pacific time), I caught a few minutes of Inside Politics on CNN. John King was substitute hosting, and Bay Buchanan and Paul Begala were guests. The topic was Schiavo, of course. (I turned off the TV about the time Bay Buchanan began burbling about how that's wrong. [To which I snickered, since she and her brother pillaged the Reform Party treasury of every dime, leaving it an empty husk.])

After a point in the conversation when they had talked about this not being a Left or Right issue and mentioned Jesse Jackson as proof, King asked the guests where they thought the line was that shouldn't be crossed. He mentioned that lists of people who sent donations to the Schindlers were being sold to "Right-wing" fundraising groups.

My reaction:

(1) Almost every huckster in American public life, today, has stuck their nose into the Schiavo case. Jesse Jackson is merely the latest one. I'm still waiting for Gloria Allred to find someone to "represent." Once that happens, the circus will be complete.

(2) So it turns out the Schindlers, or people acting in their name, have been using their daughter's plight to do some fund raising on the side. Now they're making more bucks selling their lists of donors to the usual sewer crowd that makes a living scamming gullible people. (To me, Larry Klayman is a prime example of the bottom-feeders who populate this crowd.)

(3) I'll never know, but still wonder how many people who've been foaming at the mouth over this case here on FR recently will now find their names, contact info, and donation amounts sold to every fringe group in the nation (including Left-wing groups, since Jackson's appearance signals their interest in getting in on the gravy train). Seems like poetic justice to me. Or, for those who prefer a religious explanation, perhaps it's a wee touch of God's retribution for the sin of pride (among others).

[texasbluebell]

BTTT!

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Theres this too, kind of old, been posted I'm sure
http://sun6.dms.state.fl.us/eog_new/eog/orders/2003/october/eo2003-201-10-22-03.html

[deport]

In this case, Judge Greer relied on the fact that, under the law, the next of kin speaks for a person who cannot speak for themselves. When a person it married, that NOK relationship passes from parents to spouse at marriage. The law doesn't call for a vote or a concensus. It says one person is the NOK, and in this case, it was the husband.

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Very good reasoned response.... People tend to forget that things like this are usually addressed somewhere in law. In the case of who has the reponsibility under Florida law the following is quoted.... the parents who are in the middle of this are listed 4th in line..... interesting...

PART IV

ABSENCE OF ADVANCE DIRECTIVE

765.401  The proxy.

765.404  Persistent vegetative state.

765.401  The proxy.--

(1)  If an incapacitated or developmentally disabled patient has not executed an advance directive, or designated a surrogate to execute an advance directive, or the designated or alternate surrogate is no longer available to make health care decisions, health care decisions may be made for the patient by any of the following individuals, in the following order of priority, if no individual in a prior class is reasonably available, willing, or competent to act:

(a)  The judicially appointed guardian of the patient or the guardian advocate of the person having a developmental disability as defined in s. 393.063, who has been authorized to consent to medical treatment, if such guardian has previously been appointed; however, this paragraph shall not be construed to require such appointment before a treatment decision can be made under this subsection;

(b)  The patient's spouse;

(c)  An adult child of the patient, or if the patient has more than one adult child, a majority of the adult children who are reasonably available for consultation;

(d)  A parent of the patient;

(e)  The adult sibling of the patient or, if the patient has more than one sibling, a majority of the adult siblings who are reasonably available for consultation;

(f)  An adult relative of the patient who has exhibited special care and concern for the patient and who has maintained regular contact with the patient and who is familiar with the patient's activities, health, and religious or moral beliefs; or

(g)  A close friend of the patient.

(h)  A clinical social worker licensed pursuant to chapter 491, or who is a graduate of a court-approved guardianship program. Such a proxy must be selected by the provider's bioethics committee and must not be employed by the provider. If the provider does not have a bioethics committee, then such a proxy may be chosen through an arrangement with the bioethics committee of another provider. The proxy will be notified that, upon request, the provider shall make available a second physician, not involved in the patient's care to assist the proxy in evaluating treatment. Decisions to withhold or withdraw life-prolonging procedures will be reviewed by the facility's bioethics committee. Documentation of efforts to locate proxies from prior classes must be recorded in the patient record.

(2)  Any health care decision made under this part must be based on the proxy's informed consent and on the decision the proxy reasonably believes the patient would have made under the circumstances. If there is no indication of what the patient would have chosen, the proxy may consider the patient's best interest in deciding that proposed treatments are to be withheld or that treatments currently in effect are to be withdrawn.

(3)  Before exercising the incapacitated patient's rights to select or decline health care, the proxy must comply with the provisions of ss. 765.205 and 765.305, except that a proxy's decision to withhold or withdraw life-prolonging procedures must be supported by clear and convincing evidence that the decision would have been the one the patient would have chosen had the patient been competent or, if there is no indication of what the patient would have chosen, that the decision is in the patient's best interest.

(4)  Nothing in this section shall be construed to preempt the designation of persons who may consent to the medical care or treatment of minors established pursuant to s. 743.0645.

History.--s. 5, ch. 92-199; s. 12, ch. 94-183; s. 32, ch. 99-331; s. 15, ch. 2000-295; s. 7, ch. 2001-250; s. 136, ch. 2001-277; s. 13, ch. 2002-195; s. 5, ch. 2003-57.

[justshutupandtakeit]

The facts are this lady was terminal as long as a dozen years ago and the doctors told her husband to let her go. The facts are he refused and tried all manner of new therapies to help her come back. The facts are they all failed. The facts are MS did NOT make the decision to pull the tube no matter how many lies to the contrary have been published here. He turned the decision over to the judge so as to escape the wrath of the parents who refuse to accept the reality of the situation and have convinced thousands of the truth of their lies about MS's inhumanity.

The facts are that there are hundreds, if not thousands, of cases like this which result in deaths every day dozens of which are in Florida. The facts are that every day we are allowing the veterans of the "greatest generation" who fought to save this country to slide into death WITHOUT A COMPLAINT while the time, emotion and money spent on this one are incalcuable. In addition, the very best that can be hoped for here is to condemn TS to a few more years of a fate worse than death. A fate NO ONE would choose for themselves.

The facts are this case has given the enemies of conservativism a gigantic club to bang us over the head with FOR NO GOOD REASON.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Please define "terminal".

[kingattax]

thanks..but i wanted a link for your post

[PhilDragoo]

[tutstar]

They only take snail mail.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Its in post 46. Here it is again.

http://www.myflorida.com/myflorida/government/laws/documents/Bush_Brief.pdf

[kingattax]

i missed it.....my apologies.......thanks again :)