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The fact that you spent so much time compiling this list of faults might also qualify you as being slightly obsessive. :)

I don't pay attention to Democratic Underground. A few years ago I might have signed up there and crafted my online presence to fit that arena just for the entertainment and educational value. I don't care about playing that game anymore. They look to me like lots of young idealistic and mind numbed kids. Many of them will grow out of their lefty obsessions as they mature. As for the old fools there, you already know what they say about old fools ...

Regarding LP: the signal to noise ratio there is slightly worse than here because there is less moderation. There are a couple of very obsessive posters with vendettas against FR. There are several freaks of nature there that defy any attempt at sane logical discourse. But there are also numerous posters there that really, all things considered, should (still) be here. I believe it would be better for the debates if they were.

Since you have brought up these other 2 sights, it inevitably brings the need to compare them to FR.

FR is not without its faults, although it is clearly the best bulletin board for conservatives by far.

There is a complaint that could be lodged against FR that I believe is valid and easily observable -- the level of Bush worship here is off the scale in terms of its unhealthiness.

I like the guy. I voted for him. He has done things that demonstrate he is a true leader, which is rare among politicians. He is personable and likable. He has numerous worthy and admirable qualities.

BUT for God's sakes, he is not perfect. In fact, he has some significant and glaring flaws both in terms of style and substance. He should not be above criticism.

He is a lifelong politician from a family of lifelong politicians, and for that reason alone deserves additional scrutiny as to motives and objectives ... and that scrutiny cannot come from a position of adulation and worship.

But to criticize Bush here is almost the same as taking the Lord's name in vain. FR looks, in that regard, to be an extension of the Republican Party. If someone from the 'other' sights was critiquing us, I believe that would be one of their biggest complaints. And it is a critique that is not without some merit.

So .. you're saying .. supporting the President is a bad idea .. and because many of us who support him - are somehow empty headed .. and just sychophants ..??

I've never said the President is perfect. I've never thought that - and I never imply that about anyone - because we are all human beings with imperfections.

My problem is that some people come on these threads and THE ONLY WORDS THAT EVER COME OUT OF THEIR MOUTH IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT BUSH.

Some of us are just get mighty sick of it. Many of us don't agree with EVERYTHING Bush does .. but there is more to life than this constant DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP DRIP of BUSH SUCKS.

People who whine the most are usually unhappy because they are ONE ISSUE PEOPLE and when the President doesn't side with THEIR ISSUE then HE'S out of step - instead of just accepting that they don't agree with the President's position.

Some of you people need to get over yourselves. Your opinion of Bush is just that - your opinion - and a lot of us are sick of hearing about it 24/7.