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What is Common between the Dummies (Democractic Underground) and the Loonies (LibertyPost).
March/29/05 | jveritas

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:42:13 AM PST by jveritas

Who are the Dummies?

They are the extreme left wing liberal kooks of “Democratic Underground” known to us as DummyLand.

Who are the Loonies?

They are the phony conservatives of “LibertyPost” known to us a LoonyPost.

What is common between Dummies and Loonies?

I. They both hate President Bush and the Republican Party.

For the Dummies President Bush is the worst President ever because he has cut our taxes, defends our freedom, protects our free market economy, destroys our terrorist enemies, removed the terrorist and brutal regime of Saddam Hussein, spreads freedom and democracy to the dark places of the world, protects the life of the unborn, and speaks a lot about his Christian faith and God. That is why they hate him.

The Dummies hate the Republican party because it has crushed all their hope of a communist America ruled by a left wing European style kooks. They hate the Republican party because the Republicans believe in less taxes, more freedom of the market, stronger military, protection of the unborn, tougher laws on murderers, rapists, and drug dealers.

For the Loonies President Bush is the worst President ever because he took us to war in Iraq, he failed us miserably in Iraq, he is fighting terrorism by changing the whole political structure of the Middle East, he is not following the Buchanin Doctrine of isolationism, he is not using nuclear weapons to deal with the terrorism in the Middle East. He is the worst President ever according to the Loonies because he sent our military to the Middle to fight terrorism, instead he should have sent the military to the Southern borders to chase and kill Mexican illegal immigrants. He is the worst President ever because for the Loonies he is Mexicanizing America. He is our worst President ever according to them because he sold our government to big businesses, and to corporate America. That is why they hate him.

The Loonies hate the Republican party because the GOP does not adopt and does not endorse their phony conservatism that is based on isolationism, racism, and anti-corporate America. They hate the Republicans because the vast majority of them belong to the most worthless and constantly defeated libertarian party, constitution party, and Buchaninsm.

II. They both want Hillary Clinton to be President in 2008

For the insanely delusional Dummies Hillary Clinton is the savior of the dying liberalism in America. They want her to be President so she can implement every socialist, communist, and left wing liberal idea ever devised. Of course Hillary will be crushed in the 2008 Presidential election that if she won the nomination of the Democrat party in the first place, but the insanely delusional Dummies do not have the brain to understand that an ultra left wing person like Hillary can never be President of the United States no matter how she tries to fool the general public that she is not this an extreme left winger.

For the Loonies, they will vote for Hillary Clinton because she mentioned that she will do something about illegal immigration. Despite the fact that they know she is lying about it, this fringe minority of phony conservatives will vote for her. And they will do so because the vast majority of them do not vote Republicans, and in their insanely delusional mind they want the Republican party to be defeated so they will be the real conservative party in America where they are going to win election after another.

III. They both hate Free Republic and its Founder

For the Dummies Free Republic is a gathering of extreme right wing zealots who are out on the internet to defend corporate America and our free market economy, who want to protect the right of the fetus, who want to defend America from its enemies by using military might, who praise the US military and appreciate their sacrifice to protect our freedom and our way of life, and who want to impose the Judeo-Chrisitan morality on America.

For the Loonies Free Republic is not conservative enough in their own delusional world of phony conservatism. For them Jim Robinson is a puppet in the GOP hands that want him to turn FR into a Bush worshiping cult. For the Loonies Jim Robinson and the Freepers are against freedom of speech because FR do not tolerate their speeches about killing all Mexicans, nuking Mexico, endorse the StormFronters and the Minute Men project, and give praises to vigilantism on the Mexican borders. They hate FR and JR because racism, vigilantism, and absolute hate posts are prohibited.

IV. They are both insanely delusional

When people are constantly defeated they escape the harsh and bitter reality by creating their own delusional world where they view themselves as all powerful, all wise, and all victorious.

In their insane delusional world, the Dummies believe that the vast majority of the country share their lunatic left wing ideology and that they have been winning every election but those evil Republicans are cheating by manipulating the voting machines supplied by their friends in corporate America.

In their insane delusional world, the Loonies believe that the vast majority of the country share their fringe lunatic ideas of phony conservatism, that the majority of voters are obsessed with the illegal immigration issue, and that they have the power to destroy the GOP and create the new Conservative party. Of course the delusional loonies are nothing but are a very small minority that is very vocal and very annoying. Elections after another have taught us that their votes are worthless and they have zero effect on the election results because Republicans have been winning the White House and Congress without any of their meaningless votes.


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To: jveritas
" he is not following the Buchanin Doctrine of isolationism, "

Obviously you know so little about Buchanan's positions that you can't even spell his name. Buchanan is for American interests only. He was for the war in Afghanistan because of the attack on this country. He is not for wars to defend the interests of Kosovo, England, Israel, South Korea, Taiwan, Kuwait.

Pat does not want America's military to be the robot-cops to be sacrificed for the world. That isn't isolation, that's patriotism.

61 posted on 03/29/2005 10:52:50 AM PST by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: ex-snook
I know about this man more than you think. I watched him so many times on CNN cross fire then on MSNBC as political commentator and he is not but an isolationist who wants to undermine the GOP in every possible opportunity under his phony version of conservatism.

PS: CNN and MSNBC would not have hired him if he is not bad for the conservative movement and the Republican party.

62 posted on 03/29/2005 11:01:41 AM PST by jveritas
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To: jveritas
"I know about this man more than you think. I watched him so many times on CNN cross fire then on MSNBC as political commentator and he is not but an isolationist who wants to undermine the GOP in every possible opportunity under his phony version of conservatism."

Get real, Buchanan supported Bush in the last election. Your knowledge of Buchanan appears built on accepting the opinions of others such as those that resent Buchanan's conservative opposition to exporting American jobs.

63 posted on 03/29/2005 11:08:08 AM PST by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: ex-snook
He claimed he would support the President back in September 2004 after he attacked him on a daily basis for over three and half years, and he did not stop attacking him after September 2004.
64 posted on 03/29/2005 11:45:57 AM PST by jveritas
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To: CyberAnt

Why is there need for logical "rebuttal" when the posting itself is so self-serving? Sorry, but I don't humor those that feel any critism of GWB and his numerous failed policies is a personal attack on God himself. How can anyone support GWB with a history as stated below:

*Failed immigration policy (pro open borders)
*Lack of enforcement of existing federal laws
*Expansion of government entitlements
*Increased national debt
*CFR
*Education
*Expansion of government size
*Support of an assault weapons ban
*Expanded national debt (needed listing again)
*No energy policy


65 posted on 03/29/2005 11:50:09 AM PST by politicalwit (Import Poverty...Hire an Illegal Alien)
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To: CyberAnt
people come on these threads and THE ONLY WORDS THAT EVER COME OUT OF THEIR MOUTH IS A COMPLAINT ABOUT BUSH.

My thoughts exactly-- it really gets old.   That's what makes this vanity seem so peculiar.

66 posted on 03/29/2005 11:51:38 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: politicalwit

That's a wonderful list - and I hope it comforts you!!

Because the list of good things he's done is 10 times as long - but I won't put you in pain listing them.


67 posted on 03/29/2005 6:31:00 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: spodefly

Oh yeah - thanks for talking behind my back!

I rest my case - AGAIN!!!


68 posted on 03/29/2005 6:37:10 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: CyberAnt

What are you talking about?


69 posted on 03/29/2005 7:07:25 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: CyberAnt

Nevermind ... I see ... post 60 ...

Generally I do ping someone when I mention them in a post. Sorry I forgot to do that here. I didn't say anything disparaging (other than that you seemed in the mood to rant, which I believe you acknowledged in another post.)


70 posted on 03/29/2005 7:09:21 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: CyberAnt

"That's a wonderful list - and I hope it comforts you!! "

It by no means "comforts" me. Bush has been and still is a disaster when it comes to domestic policy. Don't give me that crap about cutting taxes either...it's all smoke and mirrors; something I would expect from the Clinton's. His "compassionate conservative" rhetoric is just that...rhetoric. Where's the compassion...where's the conservatism. Look hard and you still won't find it. Go ahead, drink the republican party punch.


71 posted on 03/29/2005 7:20:41 PM PST by politicalwit (Import Poverty...Hire an Illegal Alien)
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To: politicalwit

Here's a couple of things in Bush's favor (9/26/04):

President Bush signing a federal ban on Partial Birth Abortion

Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy

Stopped foreign aid that would be used to fund abortions.

Supported and upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals

Signed E.O. reversing Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act

Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty

Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court

Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California

Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules that would have shut down every home business in America

Killed the U.S. - CCCP ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses

Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first ten ABM silos in Alaska and California so that America has a defense against North Korean nukes. [some now online]

President Bush pledged to Israel on 4/14/2004 that it could keep parts of the West Bank, giving international legitimacy to Jewish settlements there

Denied Palestinian refugees any right of return to what is now Israel, saying they should be resettled in a future Palestinian state instead

Part of coalition (Russia, Israel, EU, Palestine, USA) for Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace"

Pushed through THREE raises for our military

Increased Defense Dept funding which had deteriorated during the previous 8 years President Bush's Grand
Strategy

President Bush's Environmental Record - 2004

Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit

Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers

Ordered Attorney-General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, NOT a leftist-imagined *collective* right.

Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e. the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty)

Signed the 2004 Omnibus Budget 1/26/2004 that now MANDATES that gun buyers' background check information be fully and permanently destroyed within 24 hours of the completion of the check, no matter what.

Disarmed Libya of its Chemical, Nuclear, and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed

Won an agreement that U.S. Navy sailors may now freely board thousands of commercial ships in international waters to search for weapons of mass destruction under a landmark pact between the United States and Liberia, the world's No. 2 shipping registry (signed Feb 11, 2004), and Panama 5/10/2004 -
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/11/international/americas/11ship.html).

Successfully executed 2 wars: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom

Executed a WAR ON TERROR by getting world-wide cooperation to track funds/terrorists (has cut off much of the terrorist's funding and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network)

Bush Administration diplomacy led to the 5/25/2004 peace accord that ended a massive 20-year civil war between Sudan's north and south after two million deaths

Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed

Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.

Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia

Initiated comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE was critical.Created NATO's Rapid Response Force

Changed the tone in the White House, restoring HONOR and DIGNITY to the Presidency

Reorganized bureaucracy...after 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency: the Department of Homeland Security.

Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts.

Improving govt. efficiency with .8 million jobs put up for bid .. weakening unions and cutting undeserved pay raises.
Wants merit based promotions/raises only.

Orchestrated Republican control of the White House, the House AND the Senate.

Killed the liberal ABA's role in vetting federal judges for Congress.

GWB signed an executive order enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision (re: union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes)

Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession.
Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.

Signed 2 income tax cuts ---- 1 of which was the largest Dollar-value tax cut in world history

Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains

In process of eliminating IRS marriage penalty.

Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people [over 2 million jobs in 2004]

Eliminated the Estate Tax (AKA "Death Tax") that was taking small farms and businesses from families

Signed into law the No Child Left Behind legislation delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations)

Reorganized the INS in an attempt to safeguard the borders and ports of America and to eliminate bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.

Signed trade promotion authority

Committed US funds to purchase medicine for millions of men and women and children now suffering with AIDS in Africa

Passed Medicare Reform (authorized $39.5 Billion per year for preventive medicine such as drugs and doctor visits as well as included a ten year Privatization option)

Urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits

Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims

Submitted comprehensive Energy Plan - awaits Congressional action (works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.)

Endorses and promotes The Responsibility Era

Started the USA Freedom Corps

Initiated review of all federal agencies with a goal to eliminate federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of federal gov while increasing private sector jobs.

Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become The League of Nations (in other words, completely irrelevant)

Nominated strong, conservative judges to the judiciary [10 of whom are still awaiting confirmation as of 3/05].

Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary clean-up of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.

As part of the national forests clean-up, the President restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges) and removed the need for an EIS (Environmental Impact Statement) before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.

New Forest Rules Gives States Power Over Federal Forests Inside Their Borders

Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops. President Bush signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal AliensS.

1685, the Basic Pilot Extension Act of 2003, was signed by President Bush on December 3, 2003. It extends for five years the workplace employment eligibility authorization pilot programs created in 1996. It expands the pilot programs from the original five states to all 50 states.

UPDATE:

Won re-election in 11/04. Appointed Dr. Rice, Secretary of State and Alberto Gonzales, Attorney General.

Assisted Afghanistan and Iraq to hold FREE ELECTIONS




As for drinking Republican Party Punch - I'd rather drink that then the poisoned koolaid you are drinking!!


72 posted on 03/29/2005 7:57:44 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: CyberAnt

What I find amusing is that with a real conservative those things would have been simply a matter of doing business...no brass band needed.
"Signed E.O. reversing Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act "

Just read an article here on FR about a 14 year old getting an abortion without parental consent.

"Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty"

With a republican controlled Senate and house it would have never been ratified.

"Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court "

Is that why Texas has been told to reexamine convictions of illegal aliens per World Court demands?

"Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California"

Where's the energy policy that should have followed?

"Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules that would have shut down every home business in America"

If you had actually read the rules you would have discovered that only home businesses with employees would have been effected.

"Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit "

How many are armed now? Perhaps a dozen? BFD

"Disarmed Libya of its Chemical, Nuclear, and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed "

You really think that? That punch is more powerful than I realized.

"Successfully executed 2 wars: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom"

They ain't over....probably be there for the next ten years.

"Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts."

All Hat, no cows...........talk is cheap

"Orchestrated Republican control of the White House, the House AND the Senate."

Seems to me the republicans controlled the house and senate before GWB was ever elected.

"Signed 2 income tax cuts ---- 1 of which was the largest Dollar-value tax cut in world history "

Most of the tax cuts have been shifted to the state and local governments to burden. The tax cut is a shame without big budget cuts. GWB is spending more than any president in history and the debt continues to grow.

Honesty...I could go on forever ti counter your little "pearls". I've waste enough time on this...enjoy the party juice.







73 posted on 03/29/2005 9:02:41 PM PST by politicalwit (Import Poverty...Hire an Illegal Alien)
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To: politicalwit

Geeeee .. there was a brass band .. I must have missed that.


74 posted on 03/29/2005 9:14:50 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: jveritas

Most members of both sites have been banned from FR at least once.


75 posted on 03/29/2005 9:36:04 PM PST by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: riri
"there are quite a few good, former Freepers there. Freepers that I wish were still posting here!"

Thank you. Like my daddy who made one too many comments critical of Bush OBL policy> He was banned as a result. No insults..just incorrect-speak.

One Freeper on Threat MAtrix godzilla, blasted me and told me to keep of FR. Ya mein fuhere!! Zeig Heil! LOL I am 12 yrs old. The sheeple are alive and well. God bless all of you. Your time will come if you continue to speak out.

How long until this post is removed and I am banned too moderators????? Huh?????? The truth is out and the fix is in. FR is a shadow of its former self due to all of the purges of GOOD people.
Caleb [My Dad is on LP now with many other fine ex-FR people]

76 posted on 03/30/2005 12:05:08 AM PST by Caleb Ian (Make your time!)
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To: GABaptist

Oh wow! I see the logic in that:

Clinton - democrat - don't hold accountable
Bush - republican - hold accountable

Total logic - [sigh ..]


78 posted on 03/30/2005 2:02:09 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: jveritas

Is this what you do at work all day? Sheesh.


79 posted on 03/30/2005 3:33:21 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
In fact I wrote this thread like my other threads during night time and I post it during day time.
80 posted on 03/30/2005 6:31:11 PM PST by jveritas
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