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URGENT: EMAIL PRES BUSH REQUESTING PRES PARDON FOR TERRI SCHIAVO
3/26/05
| Oremus
Posted on 03/26/2005 12:44:17 PM PST by oremus
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posted on
03/26/2005 12:44:21 PM PST
by
oremus
To: oremus; Salvation; Siobhan; nickcarraway; NYer
please pass on to lists, etc. for me? thank you!
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posted on
03/26/2005 12:45:36 PM PST
by
oremus
(VIDEO OF TERRI LAUGHING AND INTERACTING WITH HER FATHER)
To: oremus
I hate to break this to you, but presidential pardons are limited to federal criminals, not those who suffer the misfortune to be denied personhood by some state judge, and thence ordered to die. Judge George Greer is the only one who could pardon Terri Schiavo. Bush constitutionally could declare the State of Florda to have engaged in insurrection against the Union and order a military occupation to suppress the insurrection. Governor Jeb Bush, for his part, can do nothing, for Judge George Greer, the Law in the State of Florida, has forbidden him.
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posted on
03/26/2005 12:49:35 PM PST
by
dufekin
(United States of America: a judicial tyranny, not a federal republic)
To: oremus
Pardon those who instead, had the power and authority to intervene, and stopped in fear at the moment of triumph, and were then defeated. Yes pardon them, for their shame is everlasting.
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posted on
03/26/2005 12:52:08 PM PST
by
Enterprise
(Abortion and "euthanasia" - the twin destroyers of the Democrat Party.)
To: oremus
I have sent an email to President Bush. That is the best I can do. God says to choose life, so I am doing the best I know.
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posted on
03/26/2005 12:58:38 PM PST
by
AReaganGirl
(In whom do we trust? Should we trust man to watch over us? No! Let us trust the Lord!)
To: dufekin
I understand, but terri has been sentenced to die by a judge and the judicial system, not unlike a criminal. What's worse, is she has not had legal representation, and there is EXTREME REASONABLE DOUBT in this case as to her wishes.
I don't care what the "law" says, I sent it anyway.
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posted on
03/26/2005 1:06:21 PM PST
by
oremus
(VIDEO OF TERRI LAUGHING AND INTERACTING WITH HER FATHER)
To: oremus
The president can only pardon convicted criminals.
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posted on
03/26/2005 1:06:36 PM PST
by
alnick
(Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
To: dufekin
I hate to break this to you, but presidential pardons are limited to federal criminals,
Isn't there some merit, albeit weird, to the notion that Judge Greer has declared Terri a criminal by his order to have her executed?
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posted on
03/26/2005 1:08:22 PM PST
by
farmer18th
("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
To: alnick
"Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve"
--That's a scary thought...
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posted on
03/26/2005 1:09:19 PM PST
by
oremus
(VIDEO OF TERRI LAUGHING AND INTERACTING WITH HER FATHER)
To: oremus
He can't pardon someone who hasn't been convicted of a crime.
She's being executed under the guise of "this is what she wanted".
We have no way of knowing that, of course, but that's what they're basing this on.
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posted on
03/26/2005 1:14:13 PM PST
by
tomahawk
(If we can't stand for life, what can we stand for?)
To: oremus
I want the President to do whatever it takes to stop her execution until a different court (non-Clinton appointed judges) can review all of the material. I don't believe Terri has been given a fair hearing. It is understandable to give those on death row every benefit of the doubt before they're executed. Why not the same for Terri?
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posted on
03/26/2005 1:19:54 PM PST
by
GBA
To: oremus
--That's a scary thought...Sure is. To the left. To terrorists. To dictators and tyrants.
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posted on
03/26/2005 1:20:48 PM PST
by
alnick
(Rice 2005: We've only just begun to see what Freedom can achieve.)
Comment #13 Removed by Moderator
To: farmer18th
Greer didn't declare Terri a criminal; only a jury could do that (unless she, or her lawyers on her behalf, waived the right ot a jury trial). So Greer took a more insidious track, following precedent set by the Supreme Court in Dred Scott v. Sanford (1857) and Roe et al. v. Wade (1973), and declared that Terri, although genetically human, is not a person, and as such, not endowed by our Creator with the certain inalienable right to life. Rather, Judge Greer ruled, Terri Schiavo is a member of a certain non-endangered species of xerophytic cacti, and as such, will not suffer if denied food and water for the next several months; eventually, the cactus might shrivel and die.
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posted on
03/26/2005 1:24:17 PM PST
by
dufekin
(United States of America: a judicial tyranny, not a federal republic)
To: dufekin
"Governor Jeb Bush, for his part, can do nothing, for Judge George Greer, the Law in the State of Florida, has forbidden him." Jeb Bush can declare that he has vast evidence that Terri Schiavo's civil rights are being violated by the very courts established to protect them. Then he brings that proclamation to the hospice with a hundred or so heavily armed FBI, State Police and the National Guard and takes Terri Schiavo to a hospital. Then he begins the FULL, ENTIRE, investigation, and airs it publicly to the whole nation. Replete with the several physicians' reports that declare Terri Schiavo is NOT in a PVS, and by showing the videos of Terri responding to various stimuli.
To believe that the Judiciary have found a way to conquer our Constitutional freedoms by legally binding our hands is absurd. As another Freeper pointed out, Bill Clinton had the guts to send in federal troops to remove Elian Gonzales, the liberals, to their credit, at least have the guts to go after their agenda. Now is the time for conservative politicians to find their courage and do the right thing.
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posted on
03/26/2005 1:26:26 PM PST
by
TheCrusader
("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
To: alnick
The president can only pardon convicted criminalsRight. Innocent people cannot be pardoned. They must die, because some brain damaged attorney is obsessed with death. How is blood coming from a dying woman's eyes considered "peaceful" according to Felos in his press conference this afternoon. He is satan incarnate, but that's probably a compliment to his evil soul.
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posted on
03/26/2005 1:49:16 PM PST
by
PistolPaknMama
(Will work for cool tag line.)
To: Accipiter
Yes, yes, yes! Hearsay - not allowed in a court of law but accepted by that idiot Greer in Florida! What is WRONG down there, anyway? We MUST stop the judiciary in this country or we will all suffer in the "end."
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posted on
03/26/2005 1:53:13 PM PST
by
mkg
To: oremus
Not up on pardons are you?? He can't pardon someone who has not committed a crime. The irrational comments be made on these threads in the last week is amazing.
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posted on
03/26/2005 2:12:41 PM PST
by
Kath
(Luvya Dubya)
To: tomahawk
I know, and that's what is scary.
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posted on
03/26/2005 2:25:18 PM PST
by
oremus
(VIDEO OF TERRI LAUGHING AND INTERACTING WITH HER FATHER)
To: oremus
How do you "pardon" someone who has committed no crime? Kinda like the Thanksgiving Turkey?
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