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Posted on 03/21/2005 7:18:04 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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Wow! Strangles sounds like some bad stuff! For some reason, I thought that once they'd either had it or been vaccinated for it, that the immunity lasted a whole lot longer than what they said. I think my vet told me that, but I'm not sure. I vaccinated all mine for it last spring and was considering skipping a year, but I don't think I will now.
It's a bad one for a facility even though it's not often life threatening, because it doesn't go away. Even with good vaccination regimen, I think it's impossible for a barn to be 100% protected, new horses are always coming in.
I don't even usually vaccinate for it, because mine don't have contact with other horses much, perhaps only on trail rides. It's very similar to kennel cough in dogs. I gave KC vaccine to my dog who was actively showing, but not as a matter of course otherwise.
Well, from what it sounded like, your horse could get it just from being where another horse had been who had it, for several months, so if you take any of them off your place at all, then they are all at risk.
It is enough to make you a little paranoid about it huh!
Yes it is! Heck, a person could even bring it in on their shoes or clothing fergoodnesssake.
Oh, and while we are talking about bad things that can happen, I was talking to a girl who works in another office here who raises quarter horses. She had a mare and foal to both die this past weekend. It seems the mare got that condition we were talking about back when Sharn's mare Sugar was getting ready to foal, where the abdominal wall ruptures.
She said the mare had had 4 foals before with no problems. But the worst part was that the foal died unnecessarily. I don't know if they didn't know that the mare was ready to foal or what, but they had her in a lot with a stallion and when the mother died, the stallion apparently ran the baby nearly to death. The poor little thing got run into the fence and everything else. They said the mare and stallion had been in the same pasture all this time, but still! I didn't want offend her, but it was all I could do to not say "WHAT were you THINKING!!??" The foal was still alive when they found it and the mare. They called the vet and he told him to milk the mare's body to get some colostrum and to start bottle feeding him every 2 hours. They did get some colostrum and gave it to him but he was apparently too stressed and died anyway.
I can't remember what that condition was called, but the vet said that it was nearly always fatal in horses. He said it happened to cows fairly often and they usually get over it, but horses just don't seem to be able to recover.
So sad! So I've been paranoid about that all this week too!
Good grief.
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My vet says it's strangles. He said he was aware that Okie got sick first but didn't vac him because he didn't feel he was completely recoved and his immune system still down. He told me that catching it doesn't give them full immunity and that he wanted Okie on ABT too (again) because he was concerned he might relapse. They both got a shot of baytril yesterday and get another one tomorrow and he will look at them again on monday. Hair I think the immz idea an excellent one.
Well, I sure hope they both can pull through this easily, it really isn't a particularly dangerous disease for adult horses when treated but it's bad enough and will keep them down for awhile. That website said it can take 3 months before the horses should work again. At this point, you can't even move them, it'd be irresponsible for another stable to take them sick or apparently even recently sick. The whole barn needs to aggressively treat this for it to not keep recurring. I hope they are.
I was reading the webb site. If the first vet had diagnosed it and I knew there was a vaccine I would have immz Sarah Lee. This vet says well maybe Okie had something different. Maybe. I don't think so though. Well, I go from here. This weekend I'm moving out of the tack room and disenfecting my stuff and storing elsewhere. Blows the trail ride I wanted to go to out of the water:'(
Heh - yeah - with all the equipment borrowing and such that goes on in any stable it's enough to make you paranoid... and people who haven't been through it will think you are obsessive.
The odds of Okie having something different are pretty low, it seems to me, unless a horse infected with multiple issues came through there... who got sick first?
When they say work they don't mean casual riding do they? We have been riding Okie at a walk and very slow lunging just to start getting him conditioned again. Not long or intense though.
Ask your vet perhaps, and we'll see if the others on the thread have actually been through strangles.... But I wouldn't work him if he has any symptoms still... Can he breathe? The symptom that he's not ready would be continued discharge and getting easily winded. You want to be careful, horses who get very sick with respiratory ailments have a hard time getting their wind back, you don't want to do any permanent damage.
the barn where I used to keep my horses had a case of strangles and the vet quaratined the place for a month, I think it was. Gates locked, only people with one of those gate cards could get through.
No personal experience with strangles, though. Good luck. Cindy Dawg.
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