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Teri Schindler Shiavo: The Vatican needs more than words
self | 3/21/2005 | self

Posted on 03/21/2005 8:27:13 AM PST by JosephW

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To: JohnnyZ
of course it happens. That's why i made the point of saying it used to be. Just like mass used to be said in Latin.
41 posted on 03/21/2005 8:47:30 AM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: JohnnyZ

Generally I agree with you about the money, however it appears his mistress wants a Catholic wedding. Personally I don't believe that he cares one way or the other about a church wedding, but she does.

The local bishop needs to make a statement that lets her know a church wedding won't happen!


42 posted on 03/21/2005 8:47:50 AM PST by JosephW (The world must stop Mad Mo and his orcs)
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To: JosephW

Canon law stops him. The Vatican has made it clear that this action against Terri is unacceptable. Any bishop that would approve a wedding would be practicing outright disobedience to Rome by virtue of violating canon law.


43 posted on 03/21/2005 8:48:19 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: dfwgator
These guys may be just as effective:


44 posted on 03/21/2005 8:48:53 AM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: JosephW

"Is the RCC a serious part in what is happening to Teri?"


I hope not. This country needs no interference from the Vatican, who still have their own child-molestation issues to deal with.

We don't need the Vatican telling us how to do things. If anyone disagrees, remember that they also were against removing Saddam from power.


45 posted on 03/21/2005 8:50:02 AM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

And would that outright disobedience surprise you or anyone else?


46 posted on 03/21/2005 8:50:05 AM PST by JosephW (The world must stop Mad Mo and his orcs)
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To: JosephW
From what I understand Michael (HINO) won't divorce Teri and give custody to her parents as he would then be unable to have a church wedding with with mistress Jodi.

What do you want the Church to do?

With a divorce he would not be able to get remarried in the Church unless he receives a declaration of nullity for his first marriage.

47 posted on 03/21/2005 8:50:18 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: JosephW
The local bishop needs to make a statement that lets her know a church wedding won't happen!

It doesn't matter. If a bishop violates canon law (if it is indeed a violation of canon law, which it seems to be), the sacrament would be invalid. Society may see them as married in the Church, but the eternal reality is that they are not.

I don't think having the Bishop make a statement would make a difference either way...

48 posted on 03/21/2005 8:51:12 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: JosephW

No, it wouldn't. Every band of Apostles has its Judas.


49 posted on 03/21/2005 8:52:00 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: JosephW
What will stop a bishop from being "strong and compassionate" to the poor widower who has lost his PVS wife from remarrying in the church if the bishop chooses to disregard church law?

I think if there's objection raised to such a wedding, the Church's legal process will handle it and it may be appealable all the way to Rome. I'm sure the situation has occurred before in Church history, but you'd need someone who knows the intricacies of canon law to flesh it all out.

50 posted on 03/21/2005 8:52:37 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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51 posted on 03/21/2005 8:52:47 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: wrathof59

How can a Catholic bishop excommunicate a Protestant? It doesn't make any sense.


52 posted on 03/21/2005 8:53:00 AM PST by auburntiger
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To: Aquinasfan

I pretty much recognize you and soothing Dave as experts on the RCC. Is there anyway that he could receive an annulment? How about a civil divorce, could an annulment likely be granted due to grounds of a lack of consortium?

There has to be something hidden somewhere in Canon Law that has enough room to at least take away this part of his desire to see Teri dead.


53 posted on 03/21/2005 8:53:45 AM PST by JosephW (The world must stop Mad Mo and his orcs)
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To: Saundra Duffy
The wheels are in motion.

Hopefully the Feds will be moving in soon.

"Tod Macht Frei"

54 posted on 03/21/2005 8:55:02 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: tfecw
Do you really think that mike and his girlfriend are going to be phased because they can't be married in the church?

Apparently his mistress wants to be married in the Church. Either that or she wants a "church wedding."

55 posted on 03/21/2005 8:55:07 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: tfecw
That's my understanding. I was under the impression he's protestant and isn't allowing the devorce because Terri is Catholic

Yeah but it is ok by him to shack up with another woman and have two children with that other woman

< /sarcsm>

56 posted on 03/21/2005 8:55:32 AM PST by Kaslin (If the left is against it, then I am for it!!!)
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To: Blzbba
Wow! We made it all the way to Post 45!


57 posted on 03/21/2005 8:55:49 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: tfecw

I think I have read that he is Lutheran, Terri is Catholic and jodi the mistress is also Catholic. Jodi wants a Catholic wedding so he can't be divorced, I guess she thinks the church will have no problem with him after he starves his wife and will gladly marry them. Hope the bishop in this jurisdiction has a firm backbone and says NO!


58 posted on 03/21/2005 8:55:52 AM PST by kalee
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To: JosephW

JosephW - Have you read any of my responses to you? There is NO WAY he will get married in the Church. None. Canon law would forbid it under the circumstances. Period. End of story.


59 posted on 03/21/2005 8:57:46 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: Kaslin

I suspect he's not getting the divorce because sometime during the years involved, he decided it was better to hurt Terri and the Schindlers than to do this particular good thing.


60 posted on 03/21/2005 8:58:02 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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