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Cold War Spy Movies. Sir Alec Guinness in "Tinker,Tailor,Soldier, Spy" & "Smiley's People".
Myself | 03-14-2005 | Captain Peter Blood

Posted on 03/14/2005 8:23:25 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood

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To: Captain Peter Blood; Congressman Billybob
"Our Man In Havana" with Alec Guinness was a great "cold war" movie without being overly militant..

Hard to find that one..

21 posted on 03/14/2005 8:55:29 PM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Meega, Nala Kweesta! It appears that SABERTOOTH got himself suspended. Again. ????)
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To: FreedomCalls
I don't think that matters. I'm not judging it as an accurate portrayal of a specific time or place; I'm judging it as a movie that's not funny. I guess I just didn't think the following was really gut-busting material when I went through the ordeal of watching this:

[First line, voiceover] C.R. MacNamara: On Sunday, August 13th, 1961, the eyes of America were on the nation's capital, where Roger Maris was hitting home runs #44 and 45 against the Senators. On that same day, without any warning, the East German Communists sealed off the border between East and West Berlin. I only mention this to show the kind of people we're dealing with - REAL SHIFTY!"

"Otto: I will not have my son grow up to be a capitalist. Scarlet: When he's 18 he can make his mind up whether he wants to be a capitalist or a rich communist."

"Schlemmer recognizes the reporter Untermeyer (played by Til Kiwe)] Schlemmer: Herr Oberleutnant! C.R. MacNamara: You two know each other? Schlemmer: He was my commanding officer. C.R. MacNamara: In the subway? Schlemmer: No, after that, when I was drafted. C.R. MacNamara: Aha! Gestapo! Schlemmer: No, no, SS.

C.R. MacNamara: Ten minutes early! That's a hell of a way to run an airline! Planes are supposed to be late, not early!

Peripetchikoff: We have emergency meeting with Swiss Trade Delegation. They send us twenty car-loads of cheese. Totally unacceptable... full of holes.

(cough)

22 posted on 03/14/2005 8:56:34 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Rs move icebergs out of the way; Ds throw deck chairs off the Titanic.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Here's one I bet most people haven't seen, in this same "Not quite but sorta" vein ;):

World War III

It was a miniseries with a miniseries cast--Rock Hudson, David Soul, Brian Keith--about a Soviet task force that slips into a US northern Alaska outpost, and a small team fights it off. It was literally a "cold war" in miniature.

An enjoyably grim movie, it has one really gruesome real life footnote. The director, a real loudmouth, was getting out of a helicopter and yelled at someone, and turned and walked away in a huff...right into the rotor on the back of the helicopter, and was decapitated!

23 posted on 03/14/2005 9:01:43 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Rs move icebergs out of the way; Ds throw deck chairs off the Titanic.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Will check out your suggestions, they look good.

GRIMMEST Nuclear War Movie Ever:

Threads

NOT for the easily depressed!

24 posted on 03/14/2005 9:06:26 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Rs move icebergs out of the way; Ds throw deck chairs off the Titanic.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Not a movie but a British TV series: "The Sandbaggers" starring Roy Marsden (who later portrayed Adam Dalgleish in the TV versions of the P.D. James mysteries).

Might take you a couple of episodes to get into, because it's serious, not glam, and portrays the boredom and office politics. The most harrowing episode: the one about the mortally wounded agent left to die in a hotel room.

It's on DVD now, series 1, 2, and 3.


25 posted on 03/14/2005 9:13:35 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (How do you spell dynasty? P-A-T-R-I-O-T-S!)
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To: Darkwolf377

It's a farce! You could read the dialogue of any Marx Brothers movie, Airplane knock-off, or other farce and it would not read well either. It's the delivery, pacing, and references that make it funny. Without the background to understand the constant references to the times it may not be funny, kind of like reading a Shakespeare or Aristophanes comedy today, but for the rest of us who get it, it's great.


26 posted on 03/14/2005 9:13:53 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Nobody's mentioned "The Russians are Coming, the Russians are Coming!" It's a hilarious take on the fear of a cold war invasion. One of the best.

"E-mare-jen-see, effree body to get from strit."

27 posted on 03/14/2005 9:18:00 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
"It's a farce! You could read the dialogue of any Marx Brothers movie, Airplane knock-off, or other farce and it would not read well either. It's the delivery, pacing, and references that make it funny. Without the background to understand the constant references to the times it may not be funny, kind of like reading a Shakespeare or Aristophanes comedy today, but for the rest of us who get it, it's great."

Ah, the old "You don't like something I like so you're dumb and you don't get it! routine.

I understood all the references--some of us DO know one or two things.

I understood it was a farce. It was also an unfunny farce.

I understand about words as opposed to how their played--I specifically said I'd SEEN the movie, and was merely posting the lines as a reference.

People can disagree on matters of taste; you don't have to call their intelligence into question just because they don't share your sense of humor. And it's rude to do so when you have no idea of the other person's background. Later.

28 posted on 03/14/2005 9:38:21 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Rs move icebergs out of the way; Ds throw deck chairs off the Titanic.)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6
You've got FReepmail....
29 posted on 03/14/2005 9:54:02 PM PST by Felicity Fahrquar (Never try to teach a pig to sing. You will waste your time, and you'll annoy the pig.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
We still have a common enemy - but most writers are too lame to take it on.

Hint: Begins with and "I" and doesn't mean peace.

30 posted on 03/15/2005 4:48:27 AM PST by meowmeow (Gardeners for Global Warming)
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To: Darkwolf377
Here's one I bet most people haven't seen

Personally, I thought WWIII was just a bit goofy, however, David Soul was in "The Disappearance of Flight 412" as well. :-)

Both "Threads" and "The Day After" were definitely war scare movies! I have both in my library.

31 posted on 03/15/2005 7:05:39 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Darkwolf377

BTW, if you can find "Countdown to Looking Glass" or see it on as a late night show, SNAP IT UP! As far as I know, it was only broadcast three times.


32 posted on 03/15/2005 7:10:03 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Darkwolf377
Apparently Jimmy Cagney was so tired after the lightening fast line readings Wilder demanded in that movie that he retired right aftewards. He only appeared in one other movie some 20 years later (milos Forman's Ragtime).

P.S. If there was ever a movie version of 'Gravity's Rainbow' that would be one heck of a Cold War movie.
33 posted on 03/15/2005 7:14:00 AM PST by Borges
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To: FreedomCalls

Well yes he could but I doubt he will. I for one would love another good George Smiley novel but I think I read where Le Carre said he retired Smiley a long time ago and would not bring him back.


34 posted on 03/15/2005 9:02:59 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I always thought he should bring him back and fill in the back story. TTSS started with Smiley being brought back from retirement to investigate the mole. So there is his whole history available for exploration.


35 posted on 03/15/2005 9:35:07 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Borges
"P.S. If there was ever a movie version of 'Gravity's Rainbow' that would be one heck of a Cold War movie."

It would have to be as LONG as the Cold War...:)

I prefer V. myself.

36 posted on 03/15/2005 9:49:40 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Rs move icebergs out of the way; Ds throw deck chairs off the Titanic.)
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