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300 Greedy Geezers booed me today!

Posted on 02/22/2005 6:47:54 PM PST by Dan Walsh

My democommie Congressman Pete Visclosky had a Social Security forum at 2:30 this afternoon.

I figure setting an afternoon forum was to assure that nobody with a job could show up!!

So I decided I need to take some time away from my business and give my congress critter a little heat!

Usually my congressman's town meetings attract less than fifty people, so I was shocked to see the room jammed packed and people scrambling to open the divider into the adjacent room.

Seems a co-sponsor of the forum was the Alliance for Retired Americans which I now know is a front group for the AFL-CIO. Their mission is to scare these retirees who have already had their pension funds raided by the union and by their companies filing bankruptcies. The group’s president gave short presentation on how wonderful social security is just the was it is. He assured us the trust fund was 100% secure until 2050.

He did have some suggestions though. First that Congress pay back all the billions it borrowed from the trust fund. Interesting since had just said the trust fund was fine the way it was. The rest involved paying more money to beneficiaries with minor children and those who are over 85! I'm sure that will do miracles to extend the solvency of social security.

When they opened up for audience opinions I was quick to the nearest Mic.

I told the crowd that Anybody with sense knows that Social Security is broke right now. They won't be able to pay your March check if people were to with hold paying taxes this week. I don't want to be coming to these meeting every ten years to fight my retirement. I want completely in my name right now so I don't have the government or some bankrupt company controlling my retirement.

Social Security should be 100% privatized immediately.

The room erupted in boos. The Moderator admonished the crowd to let me have my say.

Ever so intimidated by the greedy geezers, I told them all people here over 50 need to go home. Privatizing social security was only for people under 50. The current problems with social security was entirely their own fault for electing leaders like our congressman who has blown the entire trust fund.

I told them my generation needs to borrow the money to pay the benefits they had been promised but after that we need 100% privatization so that my children would never be stuck with underfunded pensions and government spending away everyone’s retirement.

Since only about four people applauded I don’t think I changed any minds.

Constructive criticism on how I might of been less confrontational and more convincing are welcome!!


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To: AmishDude
Hey I made thr Front pape of the paper!!

"The only speaker who drew boos was 43-year-old Dan Walsh of Griffith, who advocated “privatizing” the system.

“If it’s 100 percent privatized, it’s yours,” Walsh told the crowd." http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/news/z1/02-23-05_z1_news_01.html

61 posted on 02/23/2005 3:13:28 PM PST by Dan Walsh
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To: Dan Walsh

http://www.post-trib.com/cgi-bin/pto-story/news/z1/02-23-05_z1_news_01.html


62 posted on 02/23/2005 3:14:52 PM PST by Dan Walsh
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To: Dan Walsh
But for our generation and those after we don't want to relie on our kids and grandkids!

The geezers need to go home and let us fix their mistakes!!

You haven't a clue how the Social Security System operates, do you? Do you even know how the privatization is 'really' meant to work? Do you think you're eligible?

63 posted on 02/23/2005 7:32:38 PM PST by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup
Hey geezer. Cry as much as you want. GW and our generation will begin to create an ownership society that will relegate democrats and RINOs to the laughed at minority in this country!
64 posted on 02/24/2005 7:31:59 AM PST by Dan Walsh
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To: Dan Walsh
My guess is you are just arrogant, obnoxious and dumb enough to have elected Clinton by voting for Perot. Right?

ROTFLMarseO

65 posted on 02/24/2005 8:35:49 AM PST by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup
Harrow...don't ask embarrassing questions.
66 posted on 02/24/2005 8:45:35 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: Dan Walsh
Excellent work on getting the word out...here in the SF Bay Area, the local paper (CoCo Times) reported on George Miller's "Town Hall" meeting. The headline read that most of the people were opposed to SS revisions. ~sigh
67 posted on 02/24/2005 8:52:05 AM PST by Drango (NPR/PBS is the propaganda wing of the DNC.)
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To: cynicom
Really, really, really laughing my arse off now!

Thanks; I was starting the day grumpy again and now I can skip the Paxil/Zoloft/Bourbon at lunch!

68 posted on 02/24/2005 8:52:40 AM PST by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup
I guess I qualify as a "greedy olde geezer". Pushing 80, was around thru the "great" depression of the 30s. Back then poverty was defined as hunger. If you were not hungry, you were doing ok. We managed to serve the country thru WW2 and Korea without too much whining. Lost a brother doing it, he never collected a cent of SS.

I cannot subscribe to a "hate" program such as this thread provokes. I am ashamed of some of these people.

69 posted on 02/24/2005 9:00:19 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: Drango
I was up in Chicago when there were 300 support the troop ralliers and maybe 50 protesters behind a fence in a tiny corner. All Chicago media reported both sides were evenly represented.

At least this time when they reported that I was about the only one there for privatization they were correct!
70 posted on 02/24/2005 12:08:26 PM PST by Dan Walsh
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To: harrowup

I did go out and meet Perot when he was running the first time...

Couldn't get him to tell me what he was for even in person!!

Kind of reminds me of you. Lots of complaints! No solutions!


71 posted on 02/24/2005 12:13:37 PM PST by Dan Walsh
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To: Dan Walsh
At least this time when they reported that I was about the only one there for privatization they were correct!

You can't tell the same story truthfully within hours of your boasting. The media reported you were the only one who received a Bronx cheer. Maybe your mentally handicapped tennant who may or may not be on SSDI or SSI depending on the day you want to use him as a herring...

As blivets go you are at least predictable. Interesting you can't deny voting for Perot.

72 posted on 02/24/2005 3:07:18 PM PST by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup

They booed me because I was the only person who spoke in favor of privatization. Same truth throughout my postings.

I did not vote for Perot. Seemed pretty obvous from my post to me!


73 posted on 02/24/2005 3:48:41 PM PST by Dan Walsh
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To: cynicom
Pushing 70 myself, I don't think either of us are geezer material; whatever a geezer is. My first memories were of the war, blackouts and rationing...and going to The Cloisters to 'help' my mother watch the skies for the Lufwaffe. I just figured out that we didn't play 'kick the can' until after the war...or maybe I am making too much of collecting cans dragging a box with a rope...no Radio Flyer for us, and shoe inserts from Shredded Wheat cartons...and two blue stars (for father and oldest brother) in the window and far too many Gold Stars in the neighborhood.

What the snots want they will get, but I hope they understand that they will keep contributing up to 15% of their earnings into the trust fund and if they want to designate some portion to private investment, they will be amazed that the 5% investment actually is on top of the 15% (and they'll only get 4% of that, since Citibank needs to keep floating loans to insiders who just absolutely need that putting green at their Hampton's 'cottage'.

There are some greedy bastards out there but they ain't our age.

74 posted on 02/24/2005 6:36:34 PM PST by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Dan Walsh
For the record; the "over 65" demographic is the wealthiest single group in the USA. They control more assets, stocks, bonds and other investments than the rest of the country put together. They have the highest average net worth of any age group (almost three times the average net worth of the 35-44 age group) AND THIS IS BY AARP's OWN FIGURES!!!

(AARP Wealth Distribution Survey)

Social security is an entitlement program for the rich!

75 posted on 02/24/2005 7:26:32 PM PST by Species8472
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To: Species8472
Social security is an entitlement program for the rich!

Just wait 'til Gates hits 65.

Seriously, folks earning more than $25-$50,000 per year before SS should return the money in order to help those who aren't so lucky as the snowbirds and blue hairs.

76 posted on 02/25/2005 5:05:33 AM PST by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Species8472
I don't need an AARP survey to tell me that seniors are wealthier that younger people who have house payments and kids to support. That doesn't mean seniors are rich... it just means they have put away a few crumbs now that their kids have stopped eating them!

Privatizing social security will at least give they a chance to be well off in retirement.
77 posted on 02/25/2005 5:04:24 PM PST by Dan Walsh
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To: Dan Walsh

BTTT


78 posted on 02/26/2005 3:10:23 PM PST by Dan Walsh
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