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To: Jutboy; struggle
I don't understand the seperation between our parties, I honestly don't.

Well the basic questions are: WHO OWNS YOU? Do you own yourself or are you just another piece of government property? Who owns your kids? You or the government?

R's and D's tend to answer those fundamental questions completely differently. My personal suggestion is that you study THIS very, VERY carefully, and see if it doesn't help.

96 posted on 02/17/2005 6:25:44 AM PST by FreeKeys ("Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end."-J.DActon)
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To: FreeKeys

Reread my post. Then read Frederich Hayek.


99 posted on 02/17/2005 6:43:01 AM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: FreeKeys
FreeKeys: I don't think anyone thinks the government owns them, and I know I don't, but I will read that article. About the creating a government: It is one thing if someone is instilled who are more benifical to our government, as in the case in Ecuador or Panama. Zavien Doombringer: Being gay is who they are, someone does not choose to be homosexual, just as someone does not choose to be heterosexual. Where are homosexuals going to "learn" this behavior from, if it is indeed a behavior, their parents? Do you honestly believe Dick Cheny's daughter learned it from him? William Terrell: If you want to help the less fortunate, then you must support the basic idea of the welfare system. I understand that people do exploit the system and just take the money and do not contribute to society at all, however you can't generalize everyone on welfare to the few that do exploit the system. There is a problem with the current welfare system, but instead of completly abolishing it we should fix it; offer job training, instead of just giving them money, help them get a job, help them to get off welfare, as opposed to just staying on it and collecting cash. mhking: Thank you for explaining and I assure you I'm trying to spark conversation for the benift of all. 506trooper: I don't know if you have been reading the post but this is one of the multiple times I have respond to multiple people's posts, and if you did read my posts then you would know I have a BA in psychology [" Get an education (formal and informal)"] KingProut: What I meant by that was that liberals are generally more open, and tolerent to new ideas. Homosexuality is a good example, I am completly tolerent, you have zero. FourtySeven 3 letter programs The New Deal (a democrat program) Monroe Doctrine Pure Food and Drug act Forest Reserves act I won't go on but I'm sure there are more. KC Burke: I understand what you are saying, but why must we constantly argue as opposed to work together and solve common world problems? TASMANIANRED: Because I am younger and wasn't alive I don't know what happened before I was born? " You have never known a time that abortion was not legal, when most homes had a computer, when a cell phone wasn't standard..." I personally have never known this, but I am forever grateful for my fortune. I do know, however, that millions of people are dying becuase they do not have food, or sanitation. This is the one of the main problems here, I am not concerned with myself as I am for the others in the U.S. and in foreign countries. I do not feel like I am a victim at all, and I don't know what made you think otherwise, I feel quite the opposite. I think I am extremely more fortunate then others and that I should help those less fortunate. "liberals reason from emotion and never weigh outcome, Conservatives reason from logic and experience and always weigh outcome." This I find extremely odd because I feel exactly the opposite. The war in Iraq was illogical and the outcome was bad. (breif example of my thinking) As for the books I will definatly check those out, I am always eager to explore new ideas and veiwpoints to further my understanding, thank you. As for the teachings from my school, I do believe that what I was taught was stretched truth, not in the same way however. As I said I just finished Howard Zinn's A people's history of the United States, and what he talks about in there were never taught in my history class. To say that schools are teaching kids that Conservatives are bad, is just absurd because that is not happening at schools. MoochPooch: I agree, except for the generalization on liberals, but thanks for your contribution. SolidRedState: I'm glad that works out for you wolfpat: Homosexuals do not choose to be gay, a lot of them don't want to be gay because of the discriminaton against them that they have to deal with, although I suppose neither one of our theorys could ever be proven with tangiable evidence, but sexual orientation is just the way someone is. It is a part of who they are. (for some reason the spaces aren't showing up in the post, so I bolded all names, sorry)
133 posted on 02/17/2005 5:05:43 PM PST by Jutboy3
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