[dog breath]

I love to garden and think that it would make a interesting thread. I have planted many shrubs and small trees in my yard which attracts lots of birds. The elderberry, plum, cherry, honeysuckle, hackberry and apple seem to attract them through the summer. Since I have a butterfly garden also, I do not use very many chemicals and they come for the bugs. I have few problem with insects since I have so many birds and insect predators in the yard. I have read some idealistic books which promote zero use of chemicals, but I have found a little chemical warfare helps on occasion.

[sweetliberty]

"I have few problem with insects since I have so many birds and insect predators in the yard."

That is my plan as well. I do not do bugs, but I am leery of using chemicals because I don't want to hurt the birds...or butterflies. I'm a little afraid of weedkillers for the same reason.