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Attention Bird Gardening Enthusiasts
self | February 12, 2005 | sweetliberty

Posted on 02/12/2005 9:27:14 AM PST by sweetliberty

With Spring just around the corner, at least here in the southeast, it's time to think about spending more time outdoors and making our yards and porches more pleasant places to be. FReepers have such a wide variety of interests and talents, I thought it might be fun and educational to do a thread for bird and garden enthusiasts. I see a fair amount of discussion on some of the threads about gardening and landscaping, but not too much that is specific to gardening for the birds.

I've pretty much always had a bird feeder or two around, and that number has grown since I moved into a place last summer that has a big yard. I have a fair variety of birds and I have begun to think about developing it specifically to attract more species, not only for the enjoyment of watching the birds, but also to control natural pests that are prevalent in this part of the country, without resorting to pesticides. I know that the right combination of flora can discourage certain pests and also attract birds that will help keep the pest population down. I would love to hear from FReepers who are experienced at creating such a balance. I think it would also be fun to have a place to share our experiences as we develop them. I know there's lots of links out there with useful information and I make use of them from time to time, but it's just not the same as having discussions on a forum where we have experts on everything. And I don't know of any place else on the web so animated by wit, along with wisdom, on just about any topic.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Gardening; Hobbies; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Reference
KEYWORDS: attractingbirds; backyardbirds; birdfeeding; birdgardens; birdwatching; gardening; insectcontrol; naturalpestcontrol
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To: MamaTexan

What is hovering?

:)

Becky


421 posted on 02/23/2005 10:25:02 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; All
What is hovering?

Close, but not quite :)

There's a total of 4 answers, but I don't want to post them until everybody gets done with the 'pesky stuff' of life...like work.

If it turns into one of those things that drives you crazy 'till you know the answers, just ping me for a FReepmail & I'll sent them to you!

(but no 'helping' anyone else)

;-P

422 posted on 02/23/2005 10:34:46 AM PST by MamaTexan (It's not about God....it's about FREEDOM!)
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To: MamaTexan

I thought about googling but that wouldn't be playing fair:)

I wont' bug you for the answer,,Not yet anyhow.

I'm thinking of running to walmart to get the nandina bushes I want. It's raining some here, so there isn't much else to do.

I'm getting very anxious to start planting:)

Becky


423 posted on 02/23/2005 10:38:03 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: MamaTexan; sweetliberty; GodBlessAmerica

Speaking of hummers.

Would this be too early to start feeding them? I've never been sure of when to start and when to stop. On days here when the weather is nice, I really hear alot of birds singing, and it made me wonder if the hummers are back too.

Becky


424 posted on 02/23/2005 10:41:12 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

I asked about that at the bird store yesterday. She said in late April here, and to start with just just putting a little in the feeders.


425 posted on 02/23/2005 10:46:33 AM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Would this be too early to start feeding them?

The major spring migration of hummingbirds usually happens in March & April, but before THAT comes the 'scouts'. You definitely want to catch these guys, so no, I don't think it's too early.

If you can hang the feeder in a spot that is either always shaded or at least shaded from the afternoon sun, it should last a couple of weeks before you have to change it.

426 posted on 02/23/2005 10:46:48 AM PST by MamaTexan (It's not about God....it's about FREEDOM!)
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To: MamaTexan; sweetliberty

Ok thanks. I'll start putting a little out and see what happens. Add that to the list of things to get a walmart.

Becky


427 posted on 02/23/2005 10:51:31 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: MamaTexan
Jeopardy music LOL

I cheated and read a bit.

The only thing I found, so far, is the Hummer will lay the eggs and nest without any help from the male. They eat Nectar. These are the only two, with exception to the flight difference, I've found reading, so far.

428 posted on 02/23/2005 2:58:44 PM PST by GodBlessUSA (No, just because my user-name was on that thread-I'm not a troll. 4 years of posting and 1+lurking.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; MamaTexan

I'm really glad I read that bit about the Red-wing Blackbirds, or I wouldn't have known what to look for. The girls showed up today. There aren't as many as there are of the boys, at least not yet, so this should get interesting. The boys aren't very gentlemanly either. They hog the feeders that they like and make the girls eat off the ground.


429 posted on 02/23/2005 3:45:06 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: GodBlessUSA
These are the only two, with exception to the flight difference, I've found reading, so far.

OK, 'hover' is close enough, so I'll not be picky & give you and Becky that one...

One of the things a hummer CAN do that other birds CAN'T is
fly backwards

One more 'can't' and 2 'cans'.

If no one else replies in a bit, I'll go ahead and post the answers.

:)

430 posted on 02/23/2005 3:48:00 PM PST by MamaTexan (Welcome to Free Republic, the home of conservative cyber cannibals. ;^))
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To: MamaTexan

I have no clue what the others are.

Becky


431 posted on 02/23/2005 3:49:50 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; GodBlessUSA; sweetliberty
LOL!

ANSWERS

1. They can fly backward
2. Hummingbirds can see into the ultraviolet range

3. Hummingbirds have practically no sense of smell
4. They have no leg muscles, so they can’t walk

Thanks for playing!

;)

432 posted on 02/23/2005 4:06:37 PM PST by MamaTexan (Welcome to Free Republic, the home of conservative cyber cannibals. ;^))
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To: MamaTexan

They can't walk....huh. That's interesting. I wondered why they would hover alot to feed rather then land on the rest. Maybe that is why.

Becky


433 posted on 02/23/2005 4:12:03 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I wondered why they would hover alot to feed rather then land on the rest.

They're amazing little things built for flight. (I guess that's why I have so much useless trivia about them.)

Muscles weigh a lot, and hummers consume between 6 and 12 THOUSAND calories a day as it is.

It would be like one of us having to eat a whole cow every day!

434 posted on 02/23/2005 4:21:46 PM PST by MamaTexan (Welcome to Free Republic, the home of conservative cyber cannibals. ;^))
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To: MamaTexan

Drat, I was going to guess, they cannot walk. That was fun. It got me on line reading about them too.


435 posted on 02/23/2005 5:43:03 PM PST by GodBlessUSA (No, just because my user-name was on that thread-I'm not a troll. 4 years of posting and 1+lurking.)
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To: GodBlessUSA; sweetliberty; malakhi; Quester; All
A picture of the nandina shrubs I planted yesterday.

Hard to see, but there are 4 down each side of the sidewalk.

Becky

436 posted on 02/24/2005 8:49:44 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: GodBlessUSA

LOL...I just realized I've been making a mistake pinging you. Some one named GodBlessAmerica has been getting them, eeekkkk. But I've gotten no complaints so far.

Becky


437 posted on 02/24/2005 9:11:38 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
LOL! on your pinging.

That's a great pathway! It's going to fill in and be so lovely! Did you end up finding them at Walmart? I hope our Walmart carries them this spring. I'm definitely going to get them too!
438 posted on 02/24/2005 9:28:34 AM PST by GodBlessUSA (No, just because my user-name was on that thread-I'm not a troll. 4 years of posting and 1+lurking.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

It'll be interesting to see how much they grow by the end of summer. You'll have to do a before/after picture!


439 posted on 02/24/2005 9:43:48 AM PST by malakhi
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To: malakhi; GodBlessUSA

I did get them at Walmart. They had two sizes, this was the smaller one. $5.44 each.

They are pgymy nandinas, I don't think they get real big. At least I hope not:). And I hope I haven't planted too early:). I'm really anxious to get started on the garden this year. The one other new thing I'm going to try this year is hosta. I'm trying to get some perinnals in, so I don't have so much space, but I really like the annuals too. They can change to look of your garden from one year to the next.

Oh, and I got some moonflower vine seeds to mix in with the morning glories on the arbor.

Becky


440 posted on 02/24/2005 9:54:27 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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