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Attention Bird Gardening Enthusiasts
self | February 12, 2005 | sweetliberty

Posted on 02/12/2005 9:27:14 AM PST by sweetliberty

With Spring just around the corner, at least here in the southeast, it's time to think about spending more time outdoors and making our yards and porches more pleasant places to be. FReepers have such a wide variety of interests and talents, I thought it might be fun and educational to do a thread for bird and garden enthusiasts. I see a fair amount of discussion on some of the threads about gardening and landscaping, but not too much that is specific to gardening for the birds.

I've pretty much always had a bird feeder or two around, and that number has grown since I moved into a place last summer that has a big yard. I have a fair variety of birds and I have begun to think about developing it specifically to attract more species, not only for the enjoyment of watching the birds, but also to control natural pests that are prevalent in this part of the country, without resorting to pesticides. I know that the right combination of flora can discourage certain pests and also attract birds that will help keep the pest population down. I would love to hear from FReepers who are experienced at creating such a balance. I think it would also be fun to have a place to share our experiences as we develop them. I know there's lots of links out there with useful information and I make use of them from time to time, but it's just not the same as having discussions on a forum where we have experts on everything. And I don't know of any place else on the web so animated by wit, along with wisdom, on just about any topic.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Gardening; Hobbies; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Reference
KEYWORDS: attractingbirds; backyardbirds; birdfeeding; birdgardens; birdwatching; gardening; insectcontrol; naturalpestcontrol
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To: sweetliberty; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; All
Hi all. I am a transplant from the Saddle Club thread. Becky told me about it, since I have been posting there, about all the garden shows, I have been going to lately.
Not much gardening going on in Northeast Ohio right now, but I do keep the feeders filled.

Great idea for a thread. Thanks.

401 posted on 02/21/2005 9:44:47 AM PST by MissTargets
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To: MissTargets
Welcome. I'm glad to find so much interest. This thread could really prove useful as we share our knowledge and experiences.

I spent the day today in Little Rock and spent a small fortune at the Wild Bird store. I didn't even buy that much, but their stuff is high. They have a lot of variety. It was fun anyway. Long ways to go to shop, but oh well; I was off today.

402 posted on 02/21/2005 5:02:44 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: MissTargets; kenth; Knitting A Conundrum; 7.62 x 51mm; bikepacker67; Dysart; texaslil; ...

Help! I went yesterday and bought a set up for a pole feeder and I can't get the confounded thing in the ground. I bought the base that you screw down and then mount the pole because I have really rocky ground and I managed to get it to within a couple of inches of where it is supposed to be, but I can't get it down any farthur. I've already busted one screwdriver using it for leverage. I can't leave it like it is either, because it's wobbly from having to work so hard at getting it in there and some of the dirt has worked loose. Any ideas?


403 posted on 02/22/2005 3:47:48 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty

Do you have the pole with the corkscrew end and all important base with four prongs that anchor it to the earth?


404 posted on 02/22/2005 3:54:55 PM PST by Dysart
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To: Dysart

It's a corkscrew base, but there are no prongs.


405 posted on 02/22/2005 3:57:41 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Like this http://www.birdtracks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=2517&Category_Code=16


You should soak the ground with water...wait several hours and try again. If you don't have the base(as shown in the link), consider it because it's very useful for stabilization
406 posted on 02/22/2005 4:00:10 PM PST by Dysart
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To: sweetliberty
Any ideas?

Ouch! That's a tough one. I sympathize with the rocky ground problem!

Can you get the base back out?

If you can, you could fill the hole with water, (It might soften what dirt IS there) then fill it up with loose dirt and re-screw it.

Unfortunately, if it's one of those BIG underground suckers...well, you might want to rethink it's location.

Sorry, I know that's probably not much help! :(

407 posted on 02/22/2005 4:00:36 PM PST by MamaTexan (Welcome to Free Republic, the home of the conservative cyber cannibals. ;^)
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To: sweetliberty

Use a crowbar, s. Screwdrivers are for liberal-demokkkRATs.


408 posted on 02/22/2005 4:07:46 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Dysart

I did soak the ground with water and left it sit. I went back and tried a couple of times since then since then. I decided to wait till tomorrow. I've fought with it long enough. No, mine doesn't have the prongs like that, but I invested a small fortune in the set up I have. I was afraid I might have trouble with it. The folks at the bird store were very helpful and they thought it would be something I could overcome. It might just be that I'm not strong enough to get it the last few turns. I'm also afraid of breaking even the heavy duty screwdriver. It's not like I can take it back to the store so easily and try something else. The store is 3 hours away.


409 posted on 02/22/2005 4:10:48 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: MamaTexan

I can get the base back out alright. I did fill it with water. I didn't put any other dirt in there. I'm also having a hard time getting it straight. This is a major pain in the butt!


410 posted on 02/22/2005 4:15:00 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty

I'm not sure what kind of pole you're talking about, but would cement work. Cement a pole in is not really that hard to do. We have to cement alot of things in because of rocky ground.

Becky


411 posted on 02/22/2005 4:16:01 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

A crowbar won't fit through the holes. They are probably no more than a 1/4" in diameter, if that.


412 posted on 02/22/2005 4:17:03 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

Seems like using cement would kinda defeat the purpose of the corkscrew thingy. What do you do...get a bag of dry cement and add water?


413 posted on 02/22/2005 4:20:02 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; MamaTexan
I know the birds got tired of me fussing around out there. A few got tired of waiting for me to leave and decided to continue their meal.

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414 posted on 02/22/2005 4:32:35 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
A few got tired of waiting for me to leave and decided to continue their meal.

Watch out! Between a bird and it's food is a dangerous place to be! ;)

415 posted on 02/22/2005 4:50:40 PM PST by MamaTexan (Welcome to Free Republic, the home of the conservative cyber cannibals. ;^)
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To: MamaTexan

Especially the woodpeckers. LOL!


416 posted on 02/22/2005 4:55:12 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty

Yeah that's what I've done in the past.

Is the pole you are having trouble with the black one in the picture?

Becky


417 posted on 02/22/2005 6:36:06 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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"Is the pole you are having trouble with the black one in the picture?"

No. That is an old one. The new one is an inch in diameter, the base screws into the ground and then the pole and attachments are mounted.

418 posted on 02/22/2005 6:44:04 PM PST by sweetliberty ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
I can sympathize. I had such a difficult time hammering the base of a pole in the ground for a bird house last year. I gave up and I don't even have the hard rocky soil. Thankfully, my husband did it. Great shot of Downy!

Good Luck!
419 posted on 02/22/2005 7:20:16 PM PST by GodBlessUSA (No, just because my user-name was on that thread-I'm not a troll. 4 years of posting and 1+lurking.)
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To: sweetliberty; GodBlessUSA; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; All
Totally Pointless Birdie Trivia for Today

Hummingbirds, those fascinating jewel-toned creatures we anxiously look forward to every year, posses two abilities that other birds lack, and lack two abilities that the other birds have.

What are they?

( insert Jeopardy music here :)

420 posted on 02/23/2005 10:21:38 AM PST by MamaTexan (It's not about God....it's about FREEDOM!)
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