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Is the US really interesting in winning Iraq?
My own | 02-10-05 | Del Rio Wildcat 2

Posted on 02/10/2005 11:27:03 AM PST by Del Rio Wildcat 2

This is a hurriedly written piece on which I plan to elaborate in the near future.

First of all, let me state I am an Americanist patriot. I am not a Republican, Democrat, Libertarian nor any party person. I have come to realize over a number of years -- especially at the national level -- that a person who hopes to get enough popular support to win has to appeal to and placate many interest groups. The result of all this is that one has to stand for virtually everything, and by virtue of that very fact, one actually stands for nothing. In other words to stand FOR something, one must stand AGAINST many things.

George Washington warned of party spirit during his lifetime and today's patriots -- or far too many of them -- will defend their party no matter what. It is as if their support of party A or B somehow sanctifies it.

So my criticism of George W. Bush could just as well have been against Clinton, Reagan, Carter, etc.

If one closely examines our foreign policy -- apart from the baloney put out by the Council on Foreign Relations and their ilk -- one can only conclude that it has been one of supporting financially and otherwise virtually every tin-pot dictator in the world. Then we come back months or years later having to fight them in one kind of war or another. That is, unless they are Russian, Chinese or Cubans -- Korea and Vietnam aside.

Now to the main point. I don't believe we are interesting in winning in Iraq. Forget the fact that the CIA propped up and helped to finance Saddam Hussein years back.

Consider how we have allowed the continuation of the murder of hundreds of American soldiers, American civilians, Iraqi policeman, civilians and military. We have been warned by several military generals and colonels that you cannot fight a defensive war against terrorists (insurgents). We lost that battle in Vietnam and other places in between as we are now.

If we were serious about winning in Iraq, we would recognize that Russia, China, Iran, Syria and other Marxist (yes I said Marxist -- Communism is not dead) have been the financers, supporters and source of much of the terrorism going on in Iraq.

When first we went into Iraq we used the Navy Seals (remember how the rescued the off shore oil rigs South East of Iraq) when terrorist were fixing to blow them up and how we used Army Rangers to create chaos in Mozul before the "regular" troops came from the South.

You cannot fight professional terrorists with inadequately) trained (no offense against) US troops. They simply are not able to fight this kind of warfare.

Further when our government allows civilians and send GIs and Marines into this environment without giving the latter all they need to win (i.e. special forces training)then that is criminal action, if not murder. In effect, that is giving a "kind of aid and comfort" to the enemy by offering little or no solid resistance and that, my friend, is tantamount to treason.

Do you think the president would allow this second-rate strategy if his daughters were in Iraq? I doubt it. I imagine he would have NOTHING BUT THE BEST to protect them -- and well he should.

Point is that in reality every innocent American life is as important as the President's daughters.

I am livid about this. I want to grab those responsible for this milk-toast military policy in Iraq by the scruff of the neck and... as we say in Texas, "teach them how the 'cow eats the cabbage'."

Either properly train our troops how to fight these Communist butcher and kill ALL of their leadership or get the heck out and bring all of our troops home.

Lastly, my fellow Americans, we get the kind of leadership we deserve. Until we stop following the idea of electing "politicians" and turn back to electing "statesmen" we shall continue to get the 2nd rate, deplorable leadership we have had for decades. And the key is Congress. That is where the real power resides; not in the Executive or Judicial branch. Get a copy of the U.S. Constitution and read Article 3, Section 2 for example.

In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. "In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make." i.e. note the 2nd part that is in quotes above.

So the solution is to relearn our Constitution, start electing statemen to office and put a complete stop to our self-defeating foreign policies which includes diplomatically recognizing and financiing brutal communist regimes and those of their ilk.

There is no substitute for righteous indignation. And we have lost far too much of that.

Your humble servant.


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1 posted on 02/10/2005 11:27:04 AM PST by Del Rio Wildcat 2
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2

I'm a United Statesistist.


2 posted on 02/10/2005 11:28:13 AM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

...meow?


3 posted on 02/10/2005 11:29:04 AM PST by Darkwolf377 ("Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong."-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2

Obviously the title should have read "interested" rather than "interesting". Lunch hour is over and too much in a hurry to say what needed to be said with few minutes to edit. My apologies.


4 posted on 02/10/2005 11:29:36 AM PST by Del Rio Wildcat 2
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2

Sounds whiney. I give it a 2.


5 posted on 02/10/2005 11:29:42 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Pick up the white courtesy phone.


6 posted on 02/10/2005 11:29:56 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2

I find the United States quite interesting most of the time.


7 posted on 02/10/2005 11:31:10 AM PST by oldleft
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2

So the title is about Iraq, but really it is just a stupid rant then huh?

And yes, for your information, we are not only interested, but invested in BLOOD in Iraq.


8 posted on 02/10/2005 11:31:17 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Ohio State: The 2005 NCAA Football champions....assuming they arent on probation!!!!!)
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2
Either properly train our troops

Troop trashing?? Our men and women are highly trained.

9 posted on 02/10/2005 11:32:44 AM PST by AirForceMom (God Bless America!)
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2

Your writing style is pretty decent, too bad your entire premise is flawed. You will never lose a war when a country where the majority of people (large majority in this case) favor your desired outcome


10 posted on 02/10/2005 11:32:58 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2

You call yourself a "patriot" but you stand for NOTHING. Hmmmmmmn.


11 posted on 02/10/2005 11:35:46 AM PST by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2
If one closely examines our foreign policy -- apart from the baloney put out by the Council on Foreign Relations and their ilk

Tipped your hand here. It's all a plot. Sorry you're not in on it, but we who are in the know realize the utility of encouraging declarations. (Section 3.8.a of the Handbook says so...)

12 posted on 02/10/2005 11:36:12 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2
You cannot fight professional terrorists with inadequately) trained (no offense against) US troops. They simply are not able to fight this kind of warfare.

Have you been paying attention? We have and we are. Are you suggesting they are losing?

Have you ever been to Iraq? Have you ever been in the military?

13 posted on 02/10/2005 11:37:42 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2
We have been warned by several military generals and colonels that you cannot fight a defensive war against terrorists (insurgents). We lost that battle in Vietnam and other places in between as we are now.

Are you saying we are on the defensive rather than the offensive? I would say that installing new governments in Iraq and Afghanistan means we are taking the offense in the war on terrorism.

14 posted on 02/10/2005 11:37:59 AM PST by faq
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To: r9etb


>>Point is that in reality every innocent American life is as important as the President's daughters<<

and this line is right out of the Fat Mikey handbook..


15 posted on 02/10/2005 11:40:05 AM PST by sdpatriot ("If I know the answer I'll tell you the answer, and if I don't, I'll just respond, cleverly." Rummy)
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2

'You cannot fight professional terrorists with inadequately) trained (no offense against) US troops. They simply are not able to fight this kind of warfare.'

Tell it ot the 1000s of dead terrs. You are an idiot, and offense it taken.


16 posted on 02/10/2005 11:40:26 AM PST by xone
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To: xone

ot=to


17 posted on 02/10/2005 11:41:22 AM PST by xone
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To: Del Rio Wildcat 2
I woul... grhbezzx... [snort]...

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18 posted on 02/10/2005 11:42:07 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: dighton; Southack; patton; IGOTMINE
First of all, let me state I am an Americanist patriot. I am not a Republican, Democrat, Libertarian nor any party person.

This Americanist is definitely a party person! Imported beer, domestic women, and lots of those little hot dogs w/cheese wrapped in biscuits!

19 posted on 02/10/2005 11:44:09 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: xone

>>>professional terrorists<<<

lol... you mean the ones who force retarded children to commit suicide for them?

our PROFESSIONAL soldiers are cleaning these sons of dog's clocks.


20 posted on 02/10/2005 11:45:01 AM PST by sdpatriot ("If I know the answer I'll tell you the answer, and if I don't, I'll just respond, cleverly." Rummy)
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