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TOPIC: RUSH LIMBAUGH AND DONOVAN MCNABB
A (slightly) demented mind | Today | Moi

Posted on 02/07/2005 8:08:48 AM PST by Al Simmons

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To: gdani
Hopefully, Romeo Crennel will work out too. He can't be worse than Butch Davis.

He can't be worse than Bill Belichick was. 8^)

61 posted on 02/07/2005 11:54:08 AM PST by LoneGOPinCT (Pats. UConn Hoops. Red Sox. Bush. UConn Football. Patriots Again. Anyone need me to root for a team?)
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To: Bush_Democrat
Everybody always gets this wrong. Rush wasn't slamming McNabb - he was slamming the MEDIA for not reporting accurately about McNabb.

"McNabb sucks and you liberal meda types refuse to say it". That's a pretty good summary of what he said - and it was a direct attack both on McNabb and the sportsmedia, and it came with an accusation that the media had built up McNabb because he was black and they wanted a black man to succeed. Limbaugh essentially put McNabb on the level of the likes of Trent Dilfer and Quincy Carter in terms of talent if not below them, and went with the old blacks are too dumb to be good QB's line of argument.

62 posted on 02/07/2005 12:20:43 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
"Beating A Dead Horse Department"

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

63 posted on 02/07/2005 12:21:43 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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To: gdani
Hopefully, Romeo Crennel will work out too. He can't be worse than Butch Davis.

Yes he could. He could be on the level of Ray Rhodes or Dave Campo, another defensive coordinator genius and terrible head coach and really drive the club into the ground. Wait and see.

64 posted on 02/07/2005 12:24:46 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: NonValueAdded
Also consider that if the Eagles played in the AFC, they'd be lucky to get a wild card slot in any of the divisions.

Huh? They played the Patriots closer than any other divisional opponent or playoff opponent this year, yet they couldn't even make the playoffs in the AFC?

Why can't you admit that they are the #2 team in football right now? They certainly have the record to show it under the leadership of Reid, Johnson, Childress, Harbaugh, McNabb, and Dawkins.

65 posted on 02/07/2005 12:28:19 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Al Simmons

Oh, f**k McNabb.


66 posted on 02/07/2005 12:35:37 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Why can't you admit that they are the #2 team in football right now?

Why should I? Because they are the best that the NFC can offer? They are NOT better than the Steelers, for example. Sorry, second place is just the first loser.

67 posted on 02/07/2005 12:36:06 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Maybe he'll play better next week. ;)


68 posted on 02/07/2005 12:36:34 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Al Simmons

Let's see. 30-51, 357 yards, 3 TD, 3 INT, sacked 4 times for a loss of 33 yards, and a rating of 75.4 in the Super Bowl (throw in 1 rush for no yards for good measure). I don't call that a "good" game.


69 posted on 02/07/2005 12:40:24 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: Drango
"Andersen Windows and Doors are what I use in all my castles..."

That chick that starred in Ice Castles as the blind ice skater was hot!

70 posted on 02/07/2005 12:40:38 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: EveningStar

No thanks, not my type.


71 posted on 02/07/2005 12:53:51 PM PST by cyborg (Department of Homelife Security threat level is GREEN.)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

Well, you gave what you call a 'summary' of what he said. How about we look at the actual transcript:



Rush Limbaugh: I’ve listened to all you guys, actually, and I think the sum total of what you’re all saying is, Donovan McNabb is regressing, he’s going backwards. And my, I’m sorry to say this, I don’t think he’s been that good from the get-go. I think what we’ve had here is a little social concern in the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well …

Tom Jackson: Mm-hmm

Limbaugh: … for instance, black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there is a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he really didn’t deserve … [crosstalk] the defense carried this team, I think, and he got credit for it.

Jackson: But Rush, somebody went to those [NFC] championship games …

Limbaugh: Oh, they went …

Jackson: … somebody went to those Pro Bowls, somebody made those plays that I saw, running down the field, doing it with his legs, doing it with his arm. He had been a very effective quarterback for this football team over the last two or three years [crosstalk], different than what we see right -- and they didn’t have any talent then than they have now.

Limbaugh: On defense, on defense they did. [crosstalk]

Jackson: Well, on defense they did, but I’m talking about the offensive side of the ball.

Limbaugh: But that’s what I’m saying: I think he got a lot of credit for the defensive side of the ball winning games for this team.

Steve Young: But I’ll tell you what, I’ll say it even more strongly, Tom: When they’re [the Philadelphia Eagles] winning, nobody makes more plays …

Jackson: Than Donovan McNabb.

Young: … with his feet and with his arm than Donovan McNabb. That guy is really one of the best in the league at making plays. But making plays does not win championships. Running the offense does, so at some point I think that if Coy Detmer looks like a better option [crosstalk] because he’ll go in there, drop back and throw the ball correctly.

Chris Berman: Isn’t it odd that last year, with the broken leg, I know it was Arizona, but that one game he was in the [pocket] he looked great. [crosstalk]

Young: He had to run that offense.

Jackson: So Rush, once you make that investment, though, once you make that investment in him, that’s a done deal.

Limbaugh: I’m saying it’s a good investment, don’t misunderstand, I just don’t think he’s as good as everyone said he has been … [crosstalk]

Michael Irvin: Rush has a point … Rush has a point. ***


72 posted on 02/07/2005 1:18:33 PM PST by BreitbartSentMe (Ex-Democrat since 2001)
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To: Al Simmons
Rush said the press overrates black quarterbacks like McNabb.

It'll be tough for ESPN critics and others in the sports media to swallow, but Rush was right.

73 posted on 02/07/2005 1:45:13 PM PST by b4its2late (Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear.)
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To: philsfan24

I LOVE their White uniforms, with white caps with a striking blue "A".


74 posted on 02/07/2005 3:37:57 PM PST by Al Simmons (1929 AL MVP)
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To: gdani

Funny you said that. I was just asking a friend of mine about how many Pats players will follow Romeo to Cleveland in the next few years.


75 posted on 02/07/2005 3:46:52 PM PST by freedomtrail
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To: Bush_Democrat
"Everybody always gets this wrong. Rush wasn't slamming McNabb - he was slamming the MEDIA for not reporting accurately about McNabb."

ESPN, Chris Berman, Tom Jackson and the REST of the sports world knew what they were getting with Rush -- a provocateur from political world who was going to challenge uncharted PC thought-police waters.

If only Rush knew those waters were chummed with blood from the get-go.

76 posted on 02/07/2005 4:03:12 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: mhking
"Beating A Dead Horse Department"

Is it?

Had McNabb led the Eagles to this Super Bowl, tell me how many stories wouldn't have been about Donavan "vindicating" himself against Rush Limbaugh.

77 posted on 02/07/2005 4:08:50 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: freedom7

ESPN knew full well what they were getting when they signed Rush. His use of the First Amendment is, or was, guarenteed. He told the truth about the media and they didn't like what they heard. If Tom Jackson or Michael Irvin had truly been offended at the time, something whould have been done about it then and there. Instead, they, ESPN, and the court of public opinion got rid of Rush. Sometimes the truth bites. We've had McNabb and his soup-selling mother thrown up to us for the last three years. And he hasn't even won a Super Bowl. Tom Brady has, three times. Now let him and the Patriots have their time in the sun. And I'm not even a Patriots or Eagles fan.


78 posted on 02/07/2005 7:32:17 PM PST by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: b4its2late
Actually, the big problem this year at the Super Bowl was this: why did the Eagles' coaching staff suddenly become clueless at the last half of the fourth quarter when it came to clock management?

If the Eagles had bothered to do a decent no-huddle offense they could have scored an additional 7-10 points, which would have won them the game.

79 posted on 02/08/2005 6:26:41 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: RayChuang88

Yeah, they did screw up big time with the clock. But you have to admit, it's tough to win any game when you throw 3 interceptions.


80 posted on 02/08/2005 6:34:44 AM PST by b4its2late (Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear.)
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