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Some gays yearn for infection
PJStar.com ^ | January 20, 2005 | Phil Luciano

Posted on 01/20/2005 8:25:39 PM PST by Graybeard58

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To: Chaos_Axiom

Welcome aboard. You are member # 193,223.


21 posted on 01/27/2005 10:04:43 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: NorCalRepub

not surprising that a person with one perversion should have several


22 posted on 01/27/2005 10:05:12 PM PST by lady lawyer
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To: NorCalRepub

I did TV,talked to them,both partners infected.They said Same sex,great sex,best sex..Drugged up.


24 posted on 01/27/2005 10:12:26 PM PST by fatima (Go Eagles Go.Superbowl Baby (1 Corinthians 13:4-7).)
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To: Graybeard58; little jeremiah; EdReform; MeekOneGOP; scripter

How many of these truly mentally ill maggots are in the media or the ACLU pushing the deadly Gay agenda 24/7.

Homosexuals Should Pay More Insurance

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Homosexuals Should Pay More Insurance

January 20, 2005









by Nathan Tabor






With the big flap over so-called “gay marriage” temporarily on the back burner — now that their fearless but feckless leader John Kerry has gone down in flames, and with the first government-sanctioned same-sex unions already ending nastily in divorce courts and bitter custody battles — this just might be an opportune moment to discuss some rarely mentioned health problems inherent within the allegedly avant garde homosexual lifestyle.

Some would say it is a known fact that most homosexuals, and especially gay men, are promiscuous. Their rhetoric is carefully crafted to give the impression they are in “committed, caring relationships” while research suggests that the vast majority of gays are neither celibate nor monogamous. (All heterosexuals are not celibate or monogamous either.)

Some may say, so what? Well, the corollary to this homosexual health hypothesis is another proven fact: most sexually active homosexuals simply don’t live a very long time. The heartier they party, it seems, the shorter the time that party lasts.

According to a article entitled “ The Longevity of Homosexuals” in the Omega Journal of Death and Dying, the median age of death from AIDS for homosexual men is 37, and the median age of death from other causes is 42. This does not compare favorably to the ever-increasing average lifespan of the rest of the heterosexual American population.

An analysis conducted at the end of 1997 by the Centers for Disease Control revealed that fully 60 percent of all AIDS cases in the United States are found among homosexual men. This is an amazingly high figure, especially when we consider that homosexuals — contrary to Kinsey's flawed study and fabricated “one-in-ten” myth — constitute only about 1 to 2 percent of our total population.

The conclusion is simple. Homosexual activists say they want equal rights and treatment. Fine. Let’s use their own arguments against them here. Let’s start by having them pay their fair share of the healthcare costs that accompany their lifestyle.

Long-term medical treatment for HIV and AIDS is usually protracted and tremendously expensive. Maybe that’s why gay activists are pushing so hard for spousal benefits for domestic partners of homosexuals — so somebody else, like the government or an employer, will pick up the tab.

“Risky” behavior is called risky for a reason. It means that by doing it, you put your life in danger. It’s really a lot like gambling for high stakes. The more you play, the more you stand to lose. For indulging in this risky behavior, you rightfully SHOULD pay more for both life and health insurance.

This isn’t a religious or even a moral values argument. This is strictly a common sense fiscal argument. You play risky, you pay more. That’s only fair. In fact, if these types of policies aren’t implemented, then health-conscious people are the ones being discriminated against.

You can’t blame the insurance companies for charging more. After all, their likelihood of having to pay out large sums of money on behalf of their gay clients is significantly greater.

Drinking and smoking, for example, are all directly related to dozens of diseases and medical conditions. So insurance companies habitually charge higher premiums. But non-smokers, non-drinkers and those who exercise get better rates than those who don’t practice such healthy lifestyle choices.

What about skydivers, hang gliders, and racecar drivers — do they pay the same life insurance premiums as those who watch birds or collect stamps? Not hardly.

The same logic should be applied to practicing homosexuals. When actuaries and insurance underwriters finally figure out this formula, we may see some instantaneous lifestyle changes.

After all, their risky homosexual behavior is a lifestyle choice, not a destiny. If the proven threat to their health won’t do the trick, maybe the cost to their pocketbooks will.

Nathan Tabor

Copyright © 2005 by Nathan Tabor

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Nathan Tabor is a conservative political activist based in Kernersville, North Carolina. He has his BA in Psychology and his Master’s Degree in Public Policy. He is a contributing editor at www.theconservativevoice.com. Contact him at Nathan@nathantabor.com.


25 posted on 01/27/2005 10:39:59 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: nmh

Meanwhile, gift givers are happy to expand their ranks. To Rolling Stone, one gay man explained the fun of infecting a partner: "I'm murdering him in a sense, killing him slowly, and that's ... exciting to me."

Speechless. I fear for them when they meet their maker.


26 posted on 01/27/2005 10:48:46 PM PST by greeneyes23
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To: little jeremiah

A culture of death.


27 posted on 01/28/2005 12:46:44 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Grampa Dave
I aways said the LEFT was trying to bankrupt and topple our government. All fallen nations in history did not just fall, they went bankrupt.
28 posted on 01/28/2005 12:50:23 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Graybeard58

Not this s--- again. Sure, there are a small number of weirdos out there, but there's no reason to think a significant number of gay men are "chasers" or "givers."


29 posted on 01/28/2005 12:58:15 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: xm177e2

Right, "gay" men are normal and natural and none of them want AIDS. That's why so few of them have it. And why they're so careful not to give it to their lifelong "spouses" whom they are so faithful to.


30 posted on 01/28/2005 5:29:40 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes are what make the world go round.)
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To: Graybeard58
Related links:

Acting Up
Bug Chasers: The men who long to be HIV+

31 posted on 01/28/2005 6:12:08 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: DaveTesla

The astronomical costs of treating an HIV/AIDS maggot in their last couple of years is one of the big factors in our high medical insurance costs.

Articles like this and the self destructive behavior of the Gay population point out this incredible financial blow to all countries including ours.

Now the leader of France wants an HIV/AIDS tax on wealthy nations to pay for the cost of treatment.


32 posted on 01/28/2005 7:41:16 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: xm177e2
Not this s--- again. Sure, there are a small number of weirdos out there, but there's no reason to think a significant number of gay men are "chasers" or "givers."

Well since you don’t know s--- from shinola I’m betting those of us who are not blinded by the homosexual agenda will take your opinion with a grain of salt or perhaps an enema. I guess all those friends of yours who practice perversion don’t frequent bathhouses, rest stops, circuit parties and think sodomy is normal…right? All your homosexual friends are just regular guys and gals who only just want to settle down, have children, lead a “normal” suburban life, retire and take care of the grand children on the weekends when their kids want to sneak away to the Hamptons…hmm?

Go push your agenda somewhere else.

33 posted on 01/28/2005 9:57:04 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: JudyinCanada
Where does all of this money come from for those in SanFran who are collecting? Is this money federal?

I don't know exactly. Some is fed I think. Some is from the city of SF I surmise, as an HIV-infected gay friend of mine just moved from SF to another city in CA and complains that the benefits are not as good. I know he lived in an excellent 2-bd view apt in SF where he had to pay only a fraction of what his neighbors paid thanks to some sort of rent subsidy. I knew him before he "caught" the virus, am well aware that he intentionally went out to get it, though he does not admit it. So I know more than I want to know, really.

34 posted on 01/28/2005 10:08:44 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Graybeard58

This is unbelievably sick and weird.


35 posted on 01/28/2005 10:43:03 AM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (I support Terri's supporters!!!!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Let's see some scientific evidence that a substantial portion of gay men are "givers" and/or "chasers"... you can't provide it.

So even though you have no scientific evidence, my opinion is illegitimate because I don't hate gay people enough.

I could just as easily claim there are a huge number of straight women who want to be raped, by looking up a few postings on the internet and extrapolating them to the population at large.

36 posted on 01/28/2005 11:28:57 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: xm177e2; scripter; John O
I’m sure even you can grasp the fact (CDC figures) that when homosexuals account for 55-60% of new AIDS cases in this country and they’re ONLY 2-3% of population, that obvious to everyone else BUT YOU, they are both voluntary “givers” and “chasers”. Circuit parties, rest stops and bathhouses aren’t part of the heterosexual culture in the same percentage of the population, to suggest such is just more of your homosexual propaganda and lies.

Comparing homosexual promiscuity to women wanting to be raped simply shows how ridiculous you need to be to defend the indefensible.

37 posted on 01/28/2005 12:13:39 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks; xm177e2
From the Rolling Stone article, Dr. Bob Cabaj, director of behavioral-health services for San Francisco County and past president of both the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association and the Association of Gay and Lesbian Psychiatrists, says:
Some men consciously seek the virus, openly declaring themselves bug chasers, he says, while many more are just as actively seeking HIV but are in denial and wouldn't call themselves bug chasers. Cabaj estimates that at least twenty-five percent of all newly infected gay men fall into that category.
See also: Acting Up.

It's a sad situation anyway you look at it.

38 posted on 01/28/2005 1:31:25 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: xm177e2
So even though you have no scientific evidence, my opinion is illegitimate because I don't hate gay people enough.

???? You do understand that homosexuals deserve the same respect and dignity that heterosexuals deserve. However, homosexual activity is disordered and depraved. Do you intentionally take a liberal stance and attempt to combine the person with the activity further implying one must love or accept homosexual activity?

39 posted on 01/28/2005 3:08:48 PM PST by DBeers
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To: scripter
Cabaj estimates that at least twenty-five percent of all newly infected gay men fall into that category.

Sorry, that's an unscientific estimate, pulled out of his own backside. Just because a scientist says something doesn't make it true or "scientific." I mean a real study. I'm disappointed that RS or other publications would even repeat this story without seeing that there is no evidence to back up the claim that a significant number of gay men feel this way.

40 posted on 01/28/2005 7:40:56 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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