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Mac OS X security myth exposed
Techworld ^ | 24 June 2004 | Matthew Broersma, Techworld

Posted on 01/16/2005 12:04:57 PM PST by Bush2000

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To: Bush2000

PC users are sovereign rational and Mac users are fanatics. Mac users have no grip on reality. I understand. This has been explained to me by dozens of PC advocates.

Nonetheless, since your last post, yet another grad student told me-- my power pack for my PC broke (the second time in six months); can I take you Mac notebook to do my work on this trip. I said yes. The company that was to provide the new power pack emailed him to tell him that despite the promised delivery this week it might actually be several weeks before they could deliver a replacement power pack.

A few years ago my PC friends told me Gateways were vastly superior computers. Now they say they are junk and Dells are awesome. I actually do think that Dells are the best PCs-- probably the only brand worth risking. Nonetheless, the Apple products are consistently more reliable (in my limited years of experience with dozens of computers in labs and personal situations).

What is also strange to me is that in the years of having these debates, the Apple users are rhetorically constructed as irrational. I gather that because the market share is so small (which is its own bizarre distortion-- but I will not pursue that topic) Apple users must obey their PC counterpart insistence that they buy PCs. Actually, we don't have to agree to this insistence, and Apple can continue making money hand over fist by selling quality computers to people who prefer them over PCs. This may in part explain why Apple is one of the fastest rising stocks on the market.


281 posted on 02/05/2005 2:27:25 PM PST by lonestar67
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To: Bush2000

Go set up a linux box with apache, start up the serrvice. DO a ps and tell me who httpd is running as ok..


282 posted on 02/05/2005 3:05:25 PM PST by N3WBI3
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Go set up a linux box with apache, start up the serrvice. DO a ps and tell me who httpd is running as ok..

You and I both know that I wasn't referring to daemons. I was referring to actual human beings logged into Linux. And, as such, Linux doesn't force you to create local user accounts -- it's perfectly willing to allow you to run as root.
283 posted on 02/06/2005 12:37:20 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: lonestar67

Look, it's not that complicated. You can certainly find hundreds of hardware vendors that would be willing to sell you cheap-ass PCs. But that isn't what we're arguing about here. Dell makes some of the best notebook-class computers in the world. If you purchase a comparable Dell notebook, it will be just as reliable as any Mac notebook. So, don't pretend that you're comparing the cheap-ass crap against your Mac. That's a bogus comparison.


284 posted on 02/06/2005 12:41:57 PM PST by Bush2000
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I posted But what is does do is force services not to run as root/administrator. A default apache install will not run as root, nor will most Linux applications..

Maybe I should have said services, but you could have asked for clairification instead you said

Nonsense. Neither Linux nor most applications force you to run in a non-root context. That's just pure BS on your part.

Again I should have said services, but I would think that as the only example I gave was apache you would have known that.

285 posted on 02/06/2005 2:27:17 PM PST by N3WBI3
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Again I should have said services...

And, considering that the conversation was about restricted user accounts assigned to actual human beings, your point was irrelevant. Daemons are not human beings.
286 posted on 02/07/2005 9:04:00 AM PST by Bush2000
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