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To: Invincibly Ignorant
The common sense context is clear. The ONLY way Isaiah 7:14 can be a Messianic verse referring to Yahshua the Messiah is to completely rip it free of the clear context in which it resides. The ONLY evidence that this is a Messianic prophecy is the evidence supplied by Constantinian Christian tradition and probable scribal manipulation of the Gospels.

The ONLY way this can be a Messianic verse referring to Yahshua the Messiah is to completely believe the New Teatament is from God, I do, you don't, we shall see who is right one day.

BigMack

551 posted on 01/17/2005 12:11:28 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

You said "what's so hard to believe about that"? I gave you another context for the sign. Didn't think we were arguing about who's right or wrong. Just threw another perspective into the debate.


555 posted on 01/17/2005 12:15:28 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Invincibly Ignorant
The ONLY way this can be a Messianic verse referring to Yahshua the Messiah is to completely believe the New Teatament is from God, I do, you don't, we shall see who is right one day.

We may find that no one of us has it completely right and that it makes no difference.
556 posted on 01/17/2005 12:15:52 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
The ONLY way this can be a Messianic verse referring to Yahshua the Messiah is to completely believe the New Teatament is from God, I do, you don't, we shall see who is right one day.

Exactly. The meaning of these OT verses is amplified by subsequent events, told in the NT. If these verses can be understood to be referring to a virgin giving birth to an Incarnate "God-With-Us" and a virgin did indeed give birth to Emmanuel, that kinda decides what it means, doesn't it?

SD

568 posted on 01/17/2005 12:31:19 PM PST by SoothingDave
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