[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Oh ok. I can see its a matter of which source we quote.

I find it amazing you guys put so much stock in what the councils said or what source you use. The very first Christians believed in the simple gospel, Jesus died for our sins, was buried, was raised up the 3rd day and they passed that simple fact down thru history by word of mouth, its been recorded in not only the Bible but in the history books.

If there never was a council or great church fathers of any kind this fact would still have been known to us today.

This fact would of been known even if there had never been a Bible written.

And thats all anyone needs to believe, the simple gospel.

BigMack

[IMRight]

"Jesus died for our sins, was buried, was raised up the 3rd day" And thats all anyone needs to believe, the simple gospel.

You SAY that... but you don't mean it. Unless you've changed dramatically over the last couple years.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

I find it amazing you guys put so much stock in what the councils said or what source you use. The very first Christians believed in the simple gospel, Jesus died for our sins, was buried, was raised up the 3rd day and they passed that simple fact down thru history by word of mouth, its been recorded in not only the Bible but in the history books.

The immaculate conception of Mary has been passed down by word of mouth too. Do you believe in that? Do you consider the NT a history book? Because I don't find his ressurection in any other historical source. Simple fact? The only way its a "fact" is if taken by faith. I don't fault you for that. You shouldn't fault me for not believing NT is inspired either.

[OLD REGGIE]

The very first Christians believed in the simple gospel, Jesus died for our sins, was buried, was raised up the 3rd day and they passed that simple fact down thru history by word of mouth, its been recorded in not only the Bible but in the history books.

And they did not preach the Trinity.