To: 1 spark
1) The trinity denies the Shema. The Shema, as well as numerous other OT verses, clearly define God as ONE. (And yes, i'm aware of how Christians interpret plurality in the OT God of Genesis. Even if i could go along with their plural interpretation,(by simply ignoring how Jews define their scripture...as well as all those other verses claiming God is ONE) it still doesn't say God is THREE. Why not four, five, six, seven or more? . Why just a trinity when God could be 2 in One, or 4 in One, or 7 in One, or 100 in One? All those combinations too could relate to His Unity, His being, His essence, His Existence. The Father and the Son are One. They are the same Divine Being, the Same Essence. They are One.
And it is three persons in this one God, cause that's what He revealed to us. If He were 4 or 6 or 12, HE would have let us know.
2) "The son's role in relation to the father is clearly subserviant, NOT equal." I was referring the the New Testament here. Even though Nicene Christianity has made Jesus equal to God, the overwhelming evidence of the NT shows Jesus to be subserviant, not equal, to God the Father.
The role of the Son is to be the Suffering Servant, not the Divine Majesty. Of course, it's going to be subserviant. That doesn't mean Jesus isn't God. You confuse person/role with essence.
SD
To: SoothingDave
Officially, now, the No Hockey League.
To: SoothingDave; 1 spark
The Father and the Son are One. They are the same Divine Being, the Same Essence. They are One.
And it is three persons in this one God, cause that's what He revealed to us. If He were 4 or 6 or 12, HE would have let us know.
Where is it revealed? Chapter and Verse please.
1,634 posted on
02/16/2005 12:02:58 PM PST by
OLD REGGIE
(I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
To: SoothingDave
RE: " The Father and the Son are One. They are the same Divine Being, the Same Essence. They are One. And it is three persons in this one God, cause that's what He revealed to us. If He were 4 or 6 or 12, HE would have let us know."
Hey...look at what i just found! Read posts #16...and #17.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1345330/posts?page=16#16
1,783 posted on
02/18/2005 8:43:47 AM PST by
1 spark
(see my links)
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