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Unable to log into Hotmail email account -- HELP!
(NONE - this is a total vanity post) ^ | 1-4-05 | ConservativeStLouisGuy

Posted on 01/04/2005 7:25:42 AM PST by ConservativeStLouisGuy

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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Try shutting down now, restart and open a browser and retry Hotmail. What happens? The try the NetZero trick again.

I didn't restart, but, dang, wouldn't you know it that (again) as soon as I opened my NetZero email I opened another window for my Hotmail email and I got it up again! :-)
41 posted on 01/04/2005 1:54:13 PM PST by ConservativeStLouisGuy (11th FReeper Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Unnecessarily Excerpt)
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To: ConservativeStLouisGuy
I didn't restart

I was curious to see if there was a setting that was changed by accessing NZ that would carry over on a reboot or if you needed to access NZ first every time.

42 posted on 01/04/2005 2:11:57 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: ConservativeStLouisGuy
Look at this article:

Microsoft to charge for Hotmail-Outlook link
43 posted on 01/05/2005 9:32:47 AM PST by dixiechick2
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; All
I was curious to see if there was a setting that was changed by accessing NZ that would carry over on a reboot or if you needed to access NZ first every time.

I tried rebooting, but the same result: couldn't get into Hotmail -- this time EVEN WITH having NetZero email opened....this is after deleting all the cache and cookies....I'd be open to other methods of trying to fix this ongoing problem...any other FReepers have some sage advice? :-)
44 posted on 01/06/2005 4:29:31 AM PST by ConservativeStLouisGuy (11th FReeper Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Unnecessarily Excerpt)
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To: dixiechick2
Look at this article:

Microsoft to charge for Hotmail-Outlook link


I read the article.....V-E-R-Y interesting.....

Thanks for alerting me to it!

Here is the article for others having the same problem.....


Microsoft to charge for Hotmail-Outlook link: Move intended to prevent abuse of feature by spammers - Joris Evers, September 27, 2004

Microsoft (Profile, Products, Articles) Corp. on Monday will start charging for a Hotmail feature that allows users of the Web-based e-mail service to access their e-mail using the Outlook e-mail client.

Microsoft is making the move not to increase the number of paying Hotmail users but because the feature is being abused by senders of spam, said Brooke Richardson, lead product manager for MSN at Microsoft.

"Essentially what spammers do is create scripts so they can rapid-fire e-mail from Outlook or Outlook Express and pop off a hundred e-mails from each of those Hotmail accounts in rapid succession," Richardson said. "On certain days we have seen tens of thousands of Hotmail accounts set up and spamming in this matter."

To prevent abuse of the feature, Microsoft will stop making it available to new users of free Hotmail and MSN mail accounts starting Monday. Current users can continue to use the feature but will be asked to become Hotmail subscribers over the coming months. By April next year, the feature will no longer be available for free, Richardson said.

The Hotmail and MSN mail feature is known as WebDAV, after the Web-based Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) protocol that enables it. It is enabled on about 5 percent, or 9.4 million, of the 187 million active Hotmail accounts, according to Richardson.

While the decision to make the link with Outlook or Outlook Express a paid service won't be welcome news to some users, Microsoft had to take the step "for greater good" of the Hotmail and e-mail community, Richardson said. Furthermore, rival Web-based e-mail providers such as Yahoo Inc. already charge for similar functionality, she said.

Other actions that Microsoft has taken to prevent abuse of Hotmail by senders of spam include a limit on outgoing messages of 100 per day on free accounts and an extra validation requirement when signing up for an account, Richardson said. "We do a lot of stuff in terms of understanding the characteristics of spammers so we can watch for them and shut them down when we see them," she said.

Users who want to use WebDAV to link their Hotmail or MSN mail to an Outlook can subscribe to Hotmail Plus, which also offers 2GB of e-mail space and an account that doesn't expire, for $19.95 per year, or to MSN Premium for $99.95 a year.
45 posted on 01/06/2005 4:34:57 AM PST by ConservativeStLouisGuy (11th FReeper Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Unnecessarily Excerpt)
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Drat. I'll keep thinking on it...but golly, it sure would be a lot easier if I was sitting at the PC. Can't have it all I suppose. As an additional suggestion, you might want to try going to www.computing.net and doing a search for your problem...someone may have seen this before. If not, submit a question about it there. There are TONS of folks there who could help. It's been a great resource for me.


46 posted on 01/06/2005 6:11:33 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Drat. I'll keep thinking on it...but golly, it sure would be a lot easier if I was sitting at the PC. Can't have it all I suppose. As an additional suggestion, you might want to try going to www.computing.net and doing a search for your problem...someone may have seen this before. If not, submit a question about it there. There are TONS of folks there who could help. It's been a great resource for me.

Thanks for the weblink -- I'll be checking it out....

Here's a NEW TWIST on my "not being able to get into Hotmail woes"....just moments ago I went into the "History" section of my computer, pulled up my Hotmail "compose message" from yesterday, entered some info, and WAS able to save the draft and manipulate it within the Hotmail program! Now how in the name of Sam Hill is THAT happening? I have no clue....
47 posted on 01/07/2005 9:41:53 AM PST by ConservativeStLouisGuy (11th FReeper Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Unnecessarily Excerpt)
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