Posted on 01/01/2005 7:12:06 PM PST by DSBull
I ask myself the question, Why do liberals and Democrats underestimate George W, Bush all the time?
To some of you, this will be a "Duh" but it is interesting to think about. W is a man who had values instilled into his life by his parents and by his own experiences in life. These are core values, from which he will not sway.
These values include, God(Christ), family, marriage, (between a husband and wife),faithfulness,truth,promise keeping, honesty, the value of hard work, meaning what you say and saying what you mean and I think very importantly, the goodness of America and our responsiblity in the world. I am sure there are others, but these are a good start.
As far as I can tell, the President doesn't wavor in these at all, and to a liberal such steadfastness to principle is disturbing. Most liberals that I know have no core values that I can discern or none that they will stand by when it is not popular to do so. They change with the political wind, so much so that it is hard to pin them down on anything, which is probably the point(see John Kerry).
When the liberals and the DNC look and listen to GWB, they think he is narrow minded and not suffisticated because he thinks in black and white, good and evil, whilst they, the libs, see everything in a multitude of grays and consider that savy and worldly.
I believe that we are seeing the breakup of liberalism as a major political force. Those of us in flyover country share similiar core values and principles with the president and quite frankly, we are tired of having people we don't respect looking down their upturned noses at us and judging us as hicks or stupid, because we honor God, and our wives and loothe the UN and snotty nosed european countries who aren't even good enough to carry our water.
Here's to hoping that the DNC and liberals continue to not get it so that they will continue to loose. What's funny, is that this is so obvious, you would think that at least one of them might catch on, but no....
While liberalism will still be there, raising its ugly head, I don't think you will see a national cannidate that is nominated by either major party.
Happy New Year FReepers and be blessed....
Scott DSBull
I thought that I put this in Vanity, sorry please remove it if necessary..
Blessed are the spell checkers!
But the center to all this Bush hate is his personality--they see him as a southerner who doesn't buy into Northeast or California values. What he does that they most hate is NOT CARE what they think. He doesn't secretly loathe them, he doesn't think of them at all, or if he does it's as if they are some curious creature that does weird things, like lay on its back and spin around.
This drives them furious because for all their "love" for "the average guy", if there is one thing liberals thrive on is the feeling that they are the smartest person in any room, OR that they think the same way as the person who is. They look at Bush and he is not impressed with this, doesn't feel the need to be ingratiating to them as they are to, say, the Clintons.
Notice all of this is about personality. It's okay to be from "flyover country" if, like Bill Clinton, you aspire to east coast liberal values. Bush doesn't. So...that MUST mean he's an idiot, because if you don't think as THEY do, then you are one of two kinds of person: The Great Unwashed, those who are too dumb, or too poor to get a Correct education, and thus deserving of pity, OR you are simply Evil, period, no shades of difference. If you belong to the first group, you just don't know any better, and the liberal can feel superior to you and feel good about himself for wanting to be good to such a misguided sort of person. You can take care of that poor little dummy with social programs as you would a hamster.
But if you're of the second type, you must accept your evilness and shut up and stay out of the way. How DARE you try to win power in THEIR country and change it. You are evil. The opposite of good (liberal) is evil (republican). And since the liberals are all educated, their direct opposite must be stupid--if they were smart, they wouldn't be conservative, right?
So it all comes down to Bush being their opposite in intellect, political beliefs, and social level--it's okay to hang out with rich liberals because they all feel GUILTY about being rich, whereas those eeeeevil republicans seem to ENJOY their riches. In the end they all have boats and nice houses, but the liberal donates to the correct antu-capitalist charities--see, they're living in a capitalist society, but they are supporting its downfall, see? They're like collaborators, living in Nazi occupied territory but working to bring it down. THEIR champaign-drinking isn't the same as those OTHER people's...
This is a lot of background to a very short answer. They underestimate him because if he were smart...what would that make them? So they treat him like he's a dummy, and every one of his successes is due to Karl Rove, or Colin Powell, or someone else--NOT HIM. Because to admit he's intelligent means they are his opposite...and that admission would have the whole edifice topple.
If there were any validity to their underestimation, then they wouldn't be slamming him so much...they KNOW he knows what he's doing, otherwise it wouldn't worry them so.
I cannot believe that their hatred is nearly equal to that of the Libs. They, too, that is, the Bush-bashers on here, believe the worst of him always, think he is against America and for a one-world government, claim he is in effect too liberal or too stupid to know what he is doing, or in other words, to tie his own shoelaces, much less preserve, protect and defend this country. And their critiques are so mean-spirited, disgustingly worded and vile, that I've decided it isn't Bush's problem and it isn't my problem...it is THEIR problem. They literally sicken me and shame me as a FReeper and as a Conservative American.
Sorry if I digressed. I just see the situation as more than a Lib problem.
Liberals are like Charlie Brown with a football. They believe that all people are inherently good, think like them, and have their same belief system. And then life, like Lucy, pulls the football away from them as they attempt to kick, ending up flat on their back. How much damage has Jimmy Carter done in this world, being liberalism's Charlie Brown?
President Bush sees it as it really is and is not confused by this secular religion called Liberalism. He'll never give the football to someone who will pull it away as soon as he kicks, hence the fact he never allowed Arafat into the Whitehouse. How many times did Clinton need to end up on his back?
Some Liberals get it and privately concede that there is something to the man, but none in the MSM.
For good or ill Bush does often sound like a fool who can't talk or think straight off the cuff. I think he's a pretty easy guy to underestimate when you listen to him speak.
I don't get it, and frankly, I don't care.
The man is who he is and has never pretended to be anything else. Some think their vote for him is their ticket to demand he be what they want him to be.
By the way where can I get stats on how many college grads there are per state?
They underestimate him because it's easier to deal in cliche than in issues. There's quite a bit of that happening in politics on both sides.
Perfect!!!! You need to write speeches!!!!
Democrats don't understand the connection between George W. Bush and Republicans. They don't understand the importance of strength of character and directness in a candidate, and trust based on a fundamental level. You can respect someone who doesn't agree with you on every issue if his heart is in the right place and if he stands firm and is worthy of your trust as a Human being. As a former Democrat, I can say that is what Democrats have forgotten. They're talking about Hillary running because they think she can win. Don't get me wrong Hillary is well liked in the Democratic party, but they've already got a slogan picked out. They're not thinking about who connects with them or their values, they're thinking about victory. It's all about a gimmick, a slogan, an angle, a winning name.
That's why Democrats picked John Kerry, they were determined to beat George W. Bush no matter who the candidate was and they thought he was a sure thing. He was a 6'4" Presidential cardboard cutout figure from the deep voice to the war record. And when he put on that surgeon outfit, when he rode onto the Jay Leno stage in leather on a Harley Davidson, when he went Goose Hunting, Republicans saw him for exactly what he was. As a matter of fact even Democrats saw him for exactly what he was. I don't think Democrats underestimate George W. Bush, I think they underestimated Republicans.
Probably none of those candidates could have defeated George W. Bush. But out of respect to my former party, my favorite candidate as a person is honestly Howard Dean. He's genuine, he's real, he connects with people, he's socially liberal but fiscally conservative, and frankly he's to the right of Arnold on everything. And at least when he lost he would leave a legacy. He got knocked out in the primaries and he has 10X the legacy John Kerry the nominee has, that's a sad state of affairs. The party deserves better than these big shot elites that claim to speak for it.
Because they are hateful, jealous and don't care about any of the good he does. They jsut don't like him and...they have been "shown the door." Who cares if they like him or not. Enough of us did to shut them down!!!!!!!! That's all that matters in my book. Happy New Year.
I could never understand their insistence that he's "dumb." Good grief, here's a man who graduated from Yale, has a Harvard MBA, learned to fly figher jets, and ran two companies.
Gore had a lower SAT score than Bush, dropped out of law school and flunked out of divinity school (or vice versa) yet he was portrayed as intellectually superior to Bush.
And it leaked to the press, and ONLY came out in Brokaw's interview with Kerry that researchers revealed shortly before the election that Bush has a higher IQ than Kerry (which Kerry acknowledged, "hey, more power to him."). Yet W's enemies still play that card.
I don't get it, but at this point, it doesn't matter, does it. lol.
That must explain why Bush won California this election.
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