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The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - Thread THREE!

Posted on 12/30/2004 7:01:16 PM PST by HairOfTheDog

Free Republic has a lot of horse people that have found each other on other threads…. And since we all like to talk horses, how about a thread where it is not off-topic, but is THE topic?

This is a horse chat thread where we share ideas, ask for input from other horsemen, and talk about our riding and horse-keeping. We have a lot of different kinds of riders and horses, and a lot to share. In the previous threads we have had a great time talking through lessons, training, horse lamenesses, illnesses and pregnancies... and always sharing pictures and stories.

I always have a link to this thread on my profile page, so if you have something to say and can't find the thread in latest posts… look for it there and wake the thread up!

I also have a ping list for horse threads that are of interest, and Becky pings everyone most mornings. Let Becky (Paynoattentionmanbehindthecurtain) and/or me know if you would like to be on the ping list. As FreeRepublic is a political site, our politics and other issues will probably blend in…. There are many issues for horsemen that touch politics… land use, animal rights/abuse cases that make the news…. Legislation that might affect horse owners.

So... like the previous threads, this is intended as fun place to come and share stories, pictures, questions and chit-chat, unguided and unmoderated and that we come together here as friends. There are lots of ways of doing things and we all have our quirks, tricks and specialties that are neat to learn about.


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To: HairOfTheDog

I thought they were a great idea, but they are a bit pricey. One pair costs more than my saddle. Being the inventive sort, maybe I need to try to make my own?

Misty is looking a bit rough this morning. She's been rolling a good bit. She ate all of her feed this morning, but left some of her hay. I put more feed in her bucket, and she didn't pay any attention. Could she have colic? What else should I look for?


1,621 posted on 01/10/2005 7:31:07 AM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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To: deaconjim
She ate all of her feed this morning, but left some of her hay. I put more feed in her bucket, and she didn't pay any attention. Could she have colic? What else should I look for?

Not eating a second helping of grain is alarming if she likes it.... but don't try to feed her any more. What is she doing instead of eating? rolling, getting up and laying down, like she can't get comfortable? She could either be colicky or the baby is turning and uncomfortable or she could be going into labor! Any other signs seemingly important or not?

1,622 posted on 01/10/2005 7:36:13 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

This is Sharn, Misty isnt rolling anymore, her foal is asleep nearby, so it may be that she's just tired from being kept awake with him?
She was hanging her head, but its up now.
We are feeding her plenty but she has lost her weight very quickly. I guess this is normal and she'll put some back on after Adge is weaned.


1,623 posted on 01/10/2005 7:38:35 AM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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To: deaconjim
I thought they were a great idea, but they are a bit pricey. One pair costs more than my saddle. Being the inventive sort, maybe I need to try to make my own?

If they are spendy, I'd look at them as a luxury then, that you might pick up sometime at a swap meet or unexpected bargain. If stirrups sortof fit the children's feet, and if they wear a heel instead of tennis shoes, they don't often get stuck. My case was different with a teenager in tiny stirrups.

1,624 posted on 01/10/2005 7:39:05 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Hi Hair, Sharn again. Misty is the one that foaled at Christmas. Sugar is the one that is still due.


1,625 posted on 01/10/2005 7:39:54 AM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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To: HairOfTheDog; deaconjim

Misty is the one that has already foaled, Sugar is still expecting.

I'd take the grain away. One of the things vets say is no grain for 24 hours after colic.

Watch her close if she is laying down and getting up alot, she's probably colicing. If she is rolling you need to try to stop it, best way is to keep her walking. If she lays down and doesn't roll leave her alone.

I had a friend who had a mare start that behavior a few weeks after foaling. The final diagnoses was she retained a part of the after birth, and it got infected. She died. You might want to take her temp.

Becky


1,626 posted on 01/10/2005 7:42:35 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: deaconjim

Oh - sorry... I thought it was the still-pregnant horse that was rolling! I got them confused! sorry!

Yes, in her case I would be more alarmed if she seems uncomfortable, lays down more than usual or seems to get up and lay down and move around. Keep an eye on her, it is hard sometimes to make the distinction between normal and the first signs that something is wrong. Just compare her to normal. Does she seem unusually down, sluggish or unsettled? Also go out and listen to her stomach, you should hear digestive sounds, if you don't, it's more worrisome, but that is a finer diagnostic than even I am often able to read.


1,627 posted on 01/10/2005 7:43:30 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

Thanks a lot,
we checked the placenta and it was whole, and i think it would be a good idea to take her temp. However, she has stopped rolling and is just standing still. She was rolling a lot earlier and hanging her head with her legs splayed. Now she is just standing still, at times letting the foal take milk and looks tired.
We will keep a close watch and get the vet if she looks worse.


1,628 posted on 01/10/2005 7:45:19 AM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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Rose, I'm not trying to alarm you. Just watch her. Also hay is more important then the grain. It's better to give more hay then more grain. Grain can pack up in them and cause colic. Hay is actually more natural for horses then grain. Feeding grain is a man made habit, and is harder for them to digest and pass without the help of the right amount of hay.

Becky


1,629 posted on 01/10/2005 7:46:10 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: deaconjim
We will keep a close watch and get the vet if she looks worse.

Best advice, I don't want to be alarmist either, I still struggle with when to call, but with a nursing mare, I'd be on the phone already describing symptoms. The vet may have other things he'd want you to check, and may say to watch longer, but I'd suspect he'd try to come right out.

1,630 posted on 01/10/2005 7:49:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

alarming me is good. I just want her to be ok. Any advice you all give is great. Im going down now to take the grain away. It may be that she has a little bit of colic, or is tired. She is sluggish and not herself. She normally talks to us and is happy. Not this morning.
We dont know enough sadly, but if things look worse I have a wonderful vet who would be here in a jiffy.


1,631 posted on 01/10/2005 7:49:30 AM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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One other thing you can check is their gums. They should be nice and pink. If they have a blue tinge our very white, you've got problems. Press your thumb on their gums, for a second or two. When you release it should turn back pink fast. If it takes a while that is an indication something "could" be wrong. Check for good gut sounds too like Hair said.

These are all just things you can do on your own. Things the vet will appreicate hearing over the phone if you have to call.

Becky


1,632 posted on 01/10/2005 7:50:51 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: HairOfTheDog

I think I will call, just to be on the safe side. I'm going down to take the grain away and make my call.


1,633 posted on 01/10/2005 7:51:48 AM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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To: deaconjim
It may be that she has a little bit of colic

Even a little colic shouldn't go untreated. They are particularly susceptible to dying from what would be mild tummy aches to us. They can't throw up. Duchess pulled hers through without a vet because she had the Banamine injection on hand that allows their bowels to relax and pulls them through...

1,634 posted on 01/10/2005 7:52:34 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: deaconjim

It could have been a mild colic that has already passed. But the symptoms you describe don't sound good. They can be off awhile after a colic, so it may have passed. Watch close:) Hoping for the best for you.

Becky


1,635 posted on 01/10/2005 7:52:53 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: deaconjim

I'm glad on both counts:)

Keep us informed.

Becky


1,636 posted on 01/10/2005 7:56:28 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

~nervously taps desk~

Sick horses online far away make me nervous....


1,637 posted on 01/10/2005 8:01:29 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Me too.

Becky


1,638 posted on 01/10/2005 8:06:01 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: HairOfTheDog

havent called the vet yet...........went down and took away her grain bucket and she walked (at a good pace) all the length of the field to see me and made a small fuss. Not as much as normal but it was there. She has pink gums and is now eating her hay.
She hasnt rolled again and is up and walking and feeding Adge, so maybe its a false alarm, but i am going to pay close attention nevertheless.


1,639 posted on 01/10/2005 8:06:20 AM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

good morning all!


1,640 posted on 01/10/2005 8:07:15 AM PST by proud_2_B_texasgal (Too many people know the price of everything and the value of nothing.)
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