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1 posted on 12/13/2004 7:37:48 AM PST by B4Ranch
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2 posted on 12/13/2004 7:38:45 AM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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I'm very skeptical about this story. Since it comes from a tinfoil hat site, I suspect it's simply not true. Always consider the source.


3 posted on 12/13/2004 7:42:20 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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Sounds like tinfoil hat time to me.


4 posted on 12/13/2004 7:43:39 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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“I know two or three others saw what went down, but they are not talking,” said Bellone. “They got to those guys after they talked to me. The only reason I can figure they are trying to hide the truth is that the government knows it screwed up, and the recorders would prove it.”

I cannot understand how the black boxes from the planes will prove the government screwed up. WTF?!
5 posted on 12/13/2004 7:43:53 AM PST by kx9088
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Honorary firefighter Mike Bellone claims he was approached by unknown bureau agents a short time after he and his partner, Nicholas DeMasi, a retired New York firefighter, found three of the four “black boxes” among the WTC rubble before January 2002.


Finding three of the black boxes in all that chaos, doesn't sound right. First paragraph said he was to keep quiet about "one" of the black boxes.

Something doesn't sound right here.


7 posted on 12/13/2004 7:44:54 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (seeking the truth here folks.)
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The only reason I can figure they are trying to hide the truth is that the government knows it screwed up, and the recorders would prove it.

Huh?

8 posted on 12/13/2004 7:45:21 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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>WHY?
An FBI spokesman in New York, Jim Margolin, said after checking with the leader of the Ground Zero investigation that none of the boxes were recovered.

Frank Gribbon, the FDNY spokesman, also said “no one in the Department is aware of the recovery of any of the airline "black boxes" at the WTC site.”

Bellone has encounted some unrelated problems in connection with the TRAC group, however. In April, the New York Post reported (story not available online) that TRAC owned money to a number of creditors, including the company that published the book. Fire officials also told Bellone, who was made an honorary firefighter by a New York engine company, that he couldn’t wear an official uniform on school visits.
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Well, someone's lying.
Could it be these two guys, or
everybody else?

9 posted on 12/13/2004 7:45:36 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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A FF should not be talking if a Federal Official investigating an international war crime told him to STFU.... since he is talking I am skeptical, b/c that would make him a punk---- and I don't like to think of FF that way.


10 posted on 12/13/2004 7:46:15 AM PST by Porterville (Liberal babyboomers... creating hoops for professionals, to protect their unqualified positions)
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look for some story in the next few days by some " un-named source" digging up some dirt on this guys personal life. Always happens.


11 posted on 12/13/2004 7:46:36 AM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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Those close to the 9-11 investigation said the recovery of the “black boxes” is important because they may hold vital clues about what really happened on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001.

What really happened? That question reveals the bias.

These conspiracy theorists need to take a breath, sit back and think for a bit. If the Government was behind 9/11, don't you think they would have dealt with the black boxes before the crashes. There is no way they could have known where the boxes would end up. If they are powerful and skillful enough to pull off 9/11 and blame it on terrorists, I sincerely doubt they would have allowed the black boxes to contain any evidence when they could not be sure of custody after the crash.

It is amazing how consistently conspiracy theorists turn off their critical thinking in order to maintain their position. It borders on psychosis.

14 posted on 12/13/2004 7:46:58 AM PST by Pete
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Interesting things about this story.

Who, outside of a specially trained person, would be able to idetify a "black box" in all that rubble? I wouldn't recognize one if it was sitting on my desk. I mean, was it labeled "Black Box"?

So, an FBI agent takes something from you that you believe is VERY important and you don't even bother to get his name?

Other than that, this is a hugh, series story.


15 posted on 12/13/2004 7:47:57 AM PST by L98Fiero
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“I can tell you this, though, it was all very strange. I worked on the spaceship Columbia cleanup, and you know when something important is found and when something is not,” he said.

The WTC, the shuttle Columbia - I understand this fellow also helped with the cleanup after the crash of the Hindenburg.

16 posted on 12/13/2004 7:50:15 AM PST by mountaineer
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how about the pentagon planes black box...? was it found?

I believe the reason is, the hijackers gave big anti-American martyrdom type speeches before hitting, and we dont want to give them the air time or recognition as heros to their psycho followers.

17 posted on 12/13/2004 7:50:37 AM PST by bigjoesaddle
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Gee. This couldn't me a transparent plug for buying the book, could it?


20 posted on 12/13/2004 7:53:09 AM PST by pabianice
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WHY??????????

Bureaucratic arbitrariness. Abuse of power. Does it matter?

It's exactly the same reason that "they" decided for all 330 million Americans, that they could not choose to view most of the video shot that day.

Arbitrary and capricious. Abuse of power. Bureaucracies do that. Very well. If allowed to.

24 posted on 12/13/2004 7:54:26 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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Maybe Bushes voice was on the tapes telling the "Freedom Fighters" what to do? (Sarcasm/tin hat off)

On the other hand there may have been conversation on the tapes that might have implicated a few people one of which is about to go on trail in Iraq. People tend to forget the scope of the attack. 9/11 wasn't a puppy getting run over. The attack had global consequences. The last thing in a war is letting these wack job websites get a hold of sensitive material and distorting it beyond the truth. I had enough of that nutzo distorting crap from Kerry and his "followers".
25 posted on 12/13/2004 7:54:40 AM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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“I know two or three others saw what went down, but they are not talking,” said Bellone. “They got to those guys after they talked to me. The only reason I can figure they are trying to hide the truth is that the government knows it screwed up, and the recorders would prove it.”

It's pretty evident that the government screwed up without consulting the black boxes.

30 posted on 12/13/2004 7:57:30 AM PST by Zeroisanumber
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Just for speculation's sake, what motive could there be to pre-emptively deny or cover-up the discovery of the FDR's BEFORE it was known what was on them?

Of course, it was widely known from the outside that the aircraft were hijacked by the Islamofascists because of the numerous personal cell phone calls describing the scenes inside the doomed aircraft.

So, what reasons could there be to deny or supress this information...?


34 posted on 12/13/2004 7:59:49 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (From Ku Klux Klan to the modern era of the Koo Kleft Klan...the true RAT legacy.)
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:cough, cough: Bullsh*t :cough, cough:


35 posted on 12/13/2004 8:00:06 AM PST by COEXERJ145
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Unnamed FBI agents ... other witnesses who won't talk ... honorary firefighter ... retired firefighter

This is typical conspiracy theory stuff. I think the guy is just trying to get his fifteen minutes.

Alex Jones has probably already had this guy on and is using him as a source in his videos claiming the WTC attack was carried out by the CIA.


38 posted on 12/13/2004 8:01:03 AM PST by old3030 (Religion would not have enemies if it were not an enemy to their vices.-- Massillon.)
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