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McNabb passes for five TDs in first half
ESPN ^ | 12/5/04 | despondent sportswriters

Posted on 12/06/2004 9:03:15 AM PST by Libertarian4Bush

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To: dfwgator
To choke again in the NFC Championship game.

That would require an NFC team capable of playing with the Eagles. So far, none exist.

41 posted on 12/06/2004 9:59:09 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: discostu; HenryLeeII
No team with that bad a defense is for real
 
That is a terrible Defense, but pretty much, all they have to do is stop you once if Peyton's on.  Funny thing is, they've put so many draft picks towards D in the last few years.  Bob Sanders, Kendyll Pope, Mike Doss, Dwight Freeny, Larry Triplett, David Thornton... yet they still suck.  Wasn't Tony Dungy supposed to be a Defensive genius?
Then again, what was the name of that Offensive genius behind those high scoring Vikings teams in the late 90's, Brian Bil-something?  What ever happened to that  guy??? Betcha whatever team he's with is throwing up crazy numbers...

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

42 posted on 12/06/2004 9:59:30 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (Canada, America's big fuzzy hat.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Then again, what was the name of that Offensive genius behind those high scoring Vikings teams in the late 90's, Brian Bil-something? What ever happened to that guy??? Betcha whatever team he's with is throwing up crazy numbers...

He won a Super Bowl in Baltimore with Trent Dilfer and no offense to speak of.

Football's a funny game like that.

43 posted on 12/06/2004 10:01:33 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Libertarian4Bush

The way Seattle and St Louis are going right now either one could win the NFC West at 7-9. How sickening is that, not just a sub-500 team in the playoffs, but a sub-500 team with a home game because they won the division. 5-7 is in the hunt for a wild card spot in the NFC, a 7-9 team is highly likely.

The flattening of the divisions made it more likely, all you need is 4 mediocre teams in the same division to send a 500 or below team to the playoffs. Before you needed 5. The amazing part is that so much of the NFC is so bad. Really the Eagles are the only legit team in the conference, the Pack and Falcons come the closest to being competitors but as we saw yesterday they're too streaky and when they're bad they're simply horrendous. Outside of those three the entire conference is crap. Which is bad for the envtual Superbowl representative, having gone through a season with little or no competition to then run into either the Pats or Steelers (or whoever upsets them, lots of solid contenders in the AFC, I learned last night to hope Jacks doesn't make it because I don't think my boys can beat them again) it's going to be hard to gear up.


44 posted on 12/06/2004 10:01:52 AM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
That would require an NFC team capable of playing with the Eagles. So far, none exist.

That's what they said last year before the Carolina Panthers came into Philly and whupped them.

45 posted on 12/06/2004 10:02:48 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Then again, what was the name of that Offensive genius behind those high scoring Vikings teams in the late 90's, Brian Bil-something? What ever happened to that guy??? Betcha whatever team he's with is throwing up crazy numbers...

Yeah, the Brian Billick-led Mob Town Thugs (a.k.a. the Raisins) built up a big lead against Cincinnati last time I saw the score yesterday. I'm sure they held on to win...

46 posted on 12/06/2004 10:03:01 AM PST by HenryLeeII (The Democrats have killed more Americans than the Soviets ever did!)
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To: discostu

The Falcons are 9-3 and yet have given up more points than they have scored this year.


47 posted on 12/06/2004 10:03:43 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
You have to wonder what his intentions were on posting this thread in the first place. It's obvious it was to show his distain for Brett Favre, not so much professionally, but rather personally.

Some sports fans take it too far and feel the need to act like a bunch of dolts. That goes for ones that post in an open forum such as FR or in the stands as spectators.

48 posted on 12/06/2004 10:04:31 AM PST by MotleyGirl70 (Grammar can be your friend.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

That D is still too young. It takes experience and smarts to make a good defense. Right now Indy is getting by on rep, Payton can be stopped, I can't believe all the trickery Fischer used yesterday, spending all week telling your players they can't compete with the other team (which is what you do when your game plan revolves around trickery) won't win you a game. In the end the Colts are a finesse team, and a couple years ago the Pats showed everybody how you beat a finesse team (for the Superbowl): punch em in the mouth, frequently and often.


49 posted on 12/06/2004 10:05:26 AM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: dfwgator

BTW the Panthers have a decent shot of making the playoffs after a 1-7 start, they should be favored in all their remaining games. If they do make it in, and if they are healthy, watch out.


50 posted on 12/06/2004 10:06:08 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Tribune7

Best of luck to the Eagles, but I want term limits, a flat tax and school vouchers right now.


51 posted on 12/06/2004 10:07:08 AM PST by Temple Owl (19064)
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To: dfwgator

Losing big and winning squeakers is a sure sign of weakness.


52 posted on 12/06/2004 10:08:40 AM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: kevkrom; discostu
Actually, I'd think the "flattening" makes it more likely, as it becomes slightly more possible to have an enitre division of weak teams

it's funny you mention that - I was just kinda scratching down the numbers and trying to figure out probabilities.

a 4-team division plays 64 games, 24 of which will be in-division (12 actual GAMES, counting for 24 in the standings. those 24 will break even at 12-12, leaving an aggregate range of 12-52 (.1875) to 52-12.

in a 5-team division, you'd have 15-15, meaning you could have 15-65 (.231) to 65-15.

so yes, it seems that the possibilities are more extreme in the current arrangement, although there IS the variable now of there being half as many wild card slots PER division, making THAT tougher to get. I'm too tied up in other stuff to tackle that statistically, maybe some other enterprisign FReeper will.

as for "facing no competition", it's possible that the eagles' schedule looks easy because they MAKE it look easy. happened in 1985.

53 posted on 12/06/2004 10:12:35 AM PST by Libertarian4Bush (Teeee-OH, tee-OH tee-OH tee-OH.... tee-oh.... tee-ohhhh.... FLY EAGLES FLY)
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To: MotleyGirl70
You have to wonder what his intentions were on posting this thread in the first place.

the same as the inentions of the 15 packer fans who would have posted it had they actually showed up to play. the same as the intentions of the idiot packer fan FReepers who had already buried the "overrated black quarterback" in philly before 4th-and-26 last year. pick your motive, you're going to anyway. just assign it to everyone fairly.

54 posted on 12/06/2004 10:14:29 AM PST by Libertarian4Bush (Teeee-OH, tee-OH tee-OH tee-OH.... tee-oh.... tee-ohhhh.... FLY EAGLES FLY)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
At the risk of getting dragged into this QB controversy, I'd like to point out that McNabb & Farve are, and have been, very close statistically -- yet Farve gets the positive clippings. I guess that's what a Superbowl win does for ya -- permanent respect.

I'm an Eagles Fan, but I'm not counting on a Superbowl appearance just yet. There's still too many holes in that offensive line. McNabb is just one blindside hit away from watching the playoffs.

55 posted on 12/06/2004 10:20:44 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: dfwgator

The Eagles were a 12-4 team... the Panthers were an 11-5 team. The Eagles were favored, but nobody thought Carolina was roadkill going into that game. Nobody.

This year's a little different. The Eagles are overwhelimingly superior to everybody in the NFC; they're 9-0 in the conference, with all 9 wins coming by double digits. Unless the Eagles lose their offensive and defensive MVP's in the last game of the season and McNabb in the NFCCG (like last year), nobody in the NFC can play with them.


56 posted on 12/06/2004 10:20:53 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Teams that wrap up home field relatively early don't have a particularly great record. In 1994, the Chiefs were the overwhelming favorite, only to lose to Indianapolis in the first round. The 95 Broncos lost to Jacksonville, the Vikings lost to the Falcons. All of those teams were as dominant as Philly is this year. Teams that have a relatively easy time of it in the regular season, sometimes can't handle the pressure when they finally get in a close game during the playoffs.


57 posted on 12/06/2004 10:25:16 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: discostu

Has an 11-5 team ever failed to make the playoffs? Under the current format, I mean?


58 posted on 12/06/2004 10:26:02 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Libertarian4Bush

Yup, you're the standard Eagles fan--piggish, brutish and loutish.


59 posted on 12/06/2004 10:27:35 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
You'd take Favre in a SECOND.

for a drinking game, yes. but for quarterback, not any more. there was a time when he was the best in the league, but that time has long passed. his first INT of the day was the worst decision anyone made in the whole NFL on Sunday.

60 posted on 12/06/2004 10:33:01 AM PST by Libertarian4Bush (Teeee-OH, tee-OH tee-OH tee-OH.... tee-oh.... tee-ohhhh.... FLY EAGLES FLY)
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