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To: narby
God's existence is said to be self-evident in itself even though it is not self-evident to all. It is the defect in human reason that makes it not self-evident to some people.
There are two kinds of theology. Natural Theology which tends to be an area of Philosophy and Supernatural Theology, or revelation. God is known thru faith and reason.
Non-Christian Philosophers have come to the knowledge that an unmoved mover exists and that only one God can exist. In "Metaphysics" Aristotle came to that conclusion.
The Natural Sciences are lower sciences and the Philosopher is the judge of the claims of the lower sciences. It is the Philosopher's role to continuously analyze the lower sciences to keep them from misleading society. While the lower sciences tend to limit themselves to the empirical evidence available to them, the Philosophical science is not limited to empirical evidence.
Philosophers do use the available empirical evidence, but transcend the empirical evidence.
Evolution is a religious belief that has been imposed upon our society and professors are often afraid to oppose it out of fear of the abuse they see others endure for rejecting it. Evolution is a religious dogma; nothing more nothing less. All the evidence; historical, political, theological, and scientific; shows it is a religious dogma.
While they were whittling away at the rights of Catholics, the bigots were forcing their new dogma, evolution, down our throats, too.
162 posted on 12/06/2004 7:36:23 PM PST by FederalistVet
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To: FederalistVet
Evolution is a religious belief that has been imposed upon our society and professors are often afraid to oppose it out of fear of the abuse they see others endure for rejecting it. Evolution is a religious dogma; nothing more nothing less. All the evidence; historical, political, theological, and scientific; shows it is a religious dogma. While they were whittling away at the rights of Catholics, the bigots were forcing their new dogma, evolution, down our throats, too.

Environmentalisim is a religion. It worships the Godess "Gaea". It has the "holy" day of Earth Day. It has been embraced by government that has created a Federal department for it, the EPA. Most governments embrace some form of religion, be it the religion of Communisim or Islamic religions, Maoism etc. One kind of faith or another always makes it easy to govern.

But Evolution is not a religion. It is the best explanation for the evidence we can hold in our hands. It does not contradict a Christian God or the Bible in any way except in the way that some people, wrongly I believe, interpret a couple of chapters in Genesis.

Creationism and ID are recent issues. Those names were unheard of when I grew up in the Southern Baptist Church. The Monkey Trial was over 30 years before, and I was taught, in a church retreat, that there is no contradiction between Genesis and Science. I am still convinced of that.

The beliefs of many Christians I think are being manipulated by some very sketchy people who have an agenda that I cannot fathom. Perhaps it is money, or prestiege, or just power, I don't know. And then there are the masses, who buy into these "Creationist" messages, even though it risks forcing young people in government schools to make decisions about whether God exists. In a place outside of their home or church.

Creationism tarnishes conservatives with the "dumb hick" label, which in this case isn't entirely unjustified. And this in a day when we will soon be arguing about who sits on the Surpreme Court, that could decide the fate of issues like Roe V. Wade. We will very soon need all the political clout we can muster for important things, and instead we are wasting it on this silly issue.

If you can't see this, well, I'm sorry I was less pursuasive than they have been. They are the profesionals, I am not.

I honestly believe you are wrong.

163 posted on 12/06/2004 8:54:15 PM PST by narby
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