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To: savage henry
Yes, look at Ortiz's #s and see that upon hitting his prime (late 20s for drug-free mortals), being healthy, playing full time, and having quality hitters protecting him in the line-up, he produced mightily. He uses the Green Monster better than any lefty since Wade Boggs. He works hard - played winter ball last off-season. There is such a thing as natural improvement, it just doesn't happen in one's 30s (Bonds).

But he only had 17 homers at home this season, as opposed to 24 on the road. Check the rest of his numbers out here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?statsId=5909&context=batting

The reason I bring up Ortiz is that Sox fans should think long and hard before taunting the Yankees over Giambi. Anybody who thinks that the only players using steroids are the ones caught in the BALCO scandal is delusional. It's a problem in all of baseball, not just the Yankees.

91 posted on 12/02/2004 10:26:21 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago

The Yankees and Steinbrenner are screwed. They can't void the contract..not because they're afraid of losing in arbitration..and I think they might win..but rather because they don't know what's up with Sheffield..


94 posted on 12/02/2004 11:03:37 AM PST by ken5050
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To: NYCVirago
" Sox fans should think long and hard before taunting the Yankees over Giambi. "

I agree completely. You should say that rather than trashing Ortiz and preemptively insulting Sox fans.
97 posted on 12/02/2004 11:30:23 AM PST by savage henry (sense is not common)
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To: NYCVirago
The reason I bring up Ortiz is that Sox fans should think long and hard before taunting the Yankees over Giambi. Anybody who thinks that the only players using steroids are the ones caught in the BALCO scandal is delusional. It's a problem in all of baseball, not just the Yankees.
Ohh... without a doubt.
I was just teasin' ya about the legitamacy of the '03 LCS.

Baseball really needs to clean this up though.

125 posted on 12/02/2004 5:18:20 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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