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Help! "Start" button in Windows XP gone! Desktop icons have mysterious glow!

Posted on 11/30/2004 9:01:52 PM PST by jdm

Hi, Sorry for this sort of post. I'm running XP Pro and just a while ago I went to do a weekly defrag under System Tools and my machine suddenly rebooted and then upon rebooting I was prompted for a User ID and Password!!!

This has never happened before. When my desktop finally appears, the taskbar is a gray color with no icons on the taskbar. However, if I hover my mouse around near the bottom left corner of the screen, it's clear that the programs are there and that they work.

All the icons on my desktop are surrounded by a strange glow / other-worldy outline!!!!!

I have no start button otherwise I would try to do a system restore.

If anyone can help, I'd be most grateful for your reply. Many thanks.

I know someone will say to just buy a Mac, but right now I have Windows!!! :)

I just want to get back to where I was an hour ago, if that's possible.

Thank you for reading this post.


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1 posted on 11/30/2004 9:01:52 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

Wish I could help, but I just spent 7 Hours trying to install the %#@$!!!*&^?!?#$%@&%! XP Service Pack, and then had to uninstall it!

MAC is looking better all the time!


2 posted on 11/30/2004 9:05:37 PM PST by shibumi (John Galt is alive and well. He tends bar in a casino restaurant.)
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To: shibumi

I'll have to get you a screen capture of what my computer screen looks like. It's too much. I installed SP2 a few months ago. I had trouble with it at first; I had to uninstall it twice and then the third time was the charm!!!


3 posted on 11/30/2004 9:06:40 PM PST by jdm (Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
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To: jdm; Constitution Day
Desktop icons have mysterious glow!

Do they have a ~host~ around them?

4 posted on 11/30/2004 9:07:34 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: jdm

Restart your computer and get into safe mode by holding down on F8.

More details are available here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222

Do a virus scan if you can from the safe mode boot. You won't have access to the internet, so you can head to bed.

Finally, drag your pointer to the very bottom of the screen. While pressing the left mouse button, drag your mouse upward. This may fix your "Start" button problem.


5 posted on 11/30/2004 9:08:08 PM PST by ScottM1968
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To: jdm

An incomplete defrag can kill your hard drive. This happened to me a year ago, and I lost everything. Sounds like you aren't in as bad a shape as I was.

Backup your data, reformat your drive, and reinstall XP and your programs. Your system will run a lot better anyway.


6 posted on 11/30/2004 9:08:41 PM PST by kezekiel
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To: HairOfTheDog

I think I'm screwed. I can't even open up a JPG file on my desktop. It says "reinstall app(lication)."


7 posted on 11/30/2004 9:08:48 PM PST by jdm (Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
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To: jdm

Hmmm, that's odd, almost sounds like a virus. Maybe you could boot with a start up disk and try to fix it through text commands.


8 posted on 11/30/2004 9:09:00 PM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: ScottM1968

Thanks, Scott. I'll try that. I remember going into safe mode via MSCONFIG, at times, but I can't even get into start > "run" right now. Even the volume icon near the clock doesn't work.


9 posted on 11/30/2004 9:11:02 PM PST by jdm (Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
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To: jdm

I wonder if you haven't managed to size your desktop resolution to a nonstandard size not appropriate for your monitor. Can you get to that control panel? Right click the desktop - properties - settings.


10 posted on 11/30/2004 9:11:10 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: jdm
Turn your PC off and call this guy.

Good luck.

11 posted on 11/30/2004 9:12:57 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: jdm

Why do you defrag every week? A bit obsessive isn't it?


12 posted on 11/30/2004 9:13:00 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: jdm
If your hard drive is formatted as NTFS, you are likely fine. FAT32 is a more fragile drive format; however, defrag should let your computer work just fine even if it fails because it copies before erasing/overwriting.

You are still able to boot up, so it is likely your loss is minimal if at all.
13 posted on 11/30/2004 9:14:15 PM PST by ScottM1968
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To: jdm

Try a system restore. It worked for me when my cat turned my display 90 degrees by sitting on my keyboard.


14 posted on 11/30/2004 9:14:19 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: jdm

I "feel your pain" having just re-installed XP-Pro just a few days ago.

The way you describe the event I wonder if you didn't have a power problem. Do you have your system on a UPS?


15 posted on 11/30/2004 9:16:22 PM PST by Covenantor
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Was that John Kerry's Foreign Affairs advisor?!?

(Or the minister that married him to Lady Ketchup?)


16 posted on 11/30/2004 9:18:04 PM PST by shibumi (John Galt is alive and well. He tends bar in a casino restaurant.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

System Restore is a good suggestion if it isn't turned off. It isn't perfect, but can be helpful if applications were changed. I wouldn't think it would fix a corrupt file allocation table, though.

To get to it without the Start button, go into your "My Computer" icon and go into the Control Panel there.


17 posted on 11/30/2004 9:18:35 PM PST by ScottM1968
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To: jdm
The disappearing icons in the taskbar is an Explorer crash that happens in XP on ocassion. The programs are still running, but it doesn't reload all the icons when it reboots itself. You can drag the Start button back up like someone suggested or just restart with ctrl + alt+ delete ( twice). Your "glowing" icons sound like a feature of XP has been turned on accidently. Right click the desktop and choose properties to adjust the look.

it wouldn't hurt to do a scandisk next time you restart. You can set it to do this automatically by going into My computer, choose tools, choose scandisk. It will think about it a minute, then tell you it doesn't have the resources right now. You will have the option to run it on restart. Choose yes/ok

18 posted on 11/30/2004 9:19:06 PM PST by Americanchild
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To: ScottM1968

To get to it without the Start button, go into your "My Computer" icon and go into the Control Panel there.

I'm inside the control panel under "system" -- I can't find a way to restore, though. I have 4 tabs: hardware, advanced, system restore and remote. When going to the system restore tab, there's not really an option there to undo anything. Perhaps I'm looking under the wrong icon/tab in the control panel. Thanks again for your posts, everyone.


19 posted on 11/30/2004 9:22:16 PM PST by jdm (Stockhausen, Kagel, Xenakis -- world capitals or avant-garde composers?)
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Just spent the two days after Thansgiving trying to recover my daughters computer from all kinds of wierd malware....finally gave up and reformatted every thing , bought a new copy of XP with SP2 and reinstalled XP and most of the applications she wanted and it seems to be going well...

How do you protect yourself from the bad stuff on the internet?

20 posted on 11/30/2004 9:23:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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