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(Vanity) In the minority view of Clapton

Posted on 11/14/2004 5:49:54 PM PST by ConYoungBlack

Clapton is OK, his Cream stuff was OK. SRV, Hendrix, Buddy Guy, etc. etc. Those are virtuoso's of the guitar. Clapton is very sterile in his playing. He is over rated.

And don't get me wrong, I like Clapton and love his Cream stuff, but he isn't the virtuoso that many clam. Hardly innovative at all, just a run of the mill blues player. He became a commodity in the sixties because he was a white American man playing delta blues and hard blues rock. So what? he hasn't done a thing since Cream and Derek and the Dominoes.

Sue me


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1 posted on 11/14/2004 5:49:54 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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A great blues player. But you're right, innovation wasn't his forte. SRV wasn't exactly innovative either.


2 posted on 11/14/2004 5:52:27 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: ConYoungBlack

Why in the world start a vanity for this thought, instead of just replying to the Clapton thread you were posting to before?


3 posted on 11/14/2004 5:52:56 PM PST by Ex-Dem (AFL-CIO - Where organized labor becomes organized crime.)
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To: Ex-Dem

I wanted it to be a true vanity. I'm vain, trust me. Pls I'm a music snob, so I have that going for me also.


4 posted on 11/14/2004 6:07:03 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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To: Ex-Dem

I wanted it to be a true vanity. I'm vain, trust me. Plus I'm a music snob, so I have that going for me also.


5 posted on 11/14/2004 6:07:16 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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To: ConYoungBlack

Slow news night?


6 posted on 11/14/2004 6:08:44 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Mr. Mojo

SRV was definately innovative. Playing blues in minor E and minor A family chords, and playing it progressively had not been done before. Hendrix dabbled in it, but SRV cleaned it up and made it an art.

You may be wrong on this.


7 posted on 11/14/2004 6:09:04 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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To: bonfire

unfortunately. I'm a musician, and I loe to stir the pot and argue about these things. What can I say, I'm a guitar snob.


8 posted on 11/14/2004 6:10:10 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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To: bonfire

Clapton was (and is) an excellent guitar player.

I honestly believe that Eddie Van Halen has got to be about the best I've ever heard.
(please notice : "that I've ever heard" )


9 posted on 11/14/2004 6:10:46 PM PST by sawmill trash (We interrupt the regularly scheduled tagline to bring you this special tagline. 4 MORE YEARS !!!!)
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To: ConYoungBlack

My son a guitar snob too. He and I had this argument about Clapton years ago. His words: "Clapton doesn't write his own stuff. The end."


10 posted on 11/14/2004 6:13:14 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Mr. Mojo

SRV was a great guitarist but not at all like his brother, who always was interesting and grew as a musician.

Clapton? One should give him props for quitting the Yardbirds, and choosing good people to play with him over the course of his career. As a guitar player, hmmm, he's second-tier.


11 posted on 11/14/2004 6:13:45 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: sawmill trash

Above average are the words I'd use. Nothing catchy to Claptons playing. Jus aping a few Robert Johnson riffs (in a sterile way, mind you) and a couple of Buddy Guy fills and wallah, you have Clapton.

EVH is a true shredder and can play his ass off, but as far as mucisianship and artistry it just isn't there.


12 posted on 11/14/2004 6:13:49 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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To: ConYoungBlack

Eric, is that you?


13 posted on 11/14/2004 6:13:49 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: ConYoungBlack

SRV used to jam on Sundays with Gene Ramey, he of the electric stick and the Charlie Parker Quartet. Used to watch Ramey at his house with both Vaughn brothers and other Austin jazz and blues musicians basically schooling them on bop and Kansas City style.

Ramey probably had a greater impact on SRV than Hendrix.


14 posted on 11/14/2004 6:17:21 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: ConYoungBlack
Playing E minor blues is hardly innovative. SRV tuned down his guitar a half step and played a lot of E flat blues, which Hendrix pioneered.

SRV never even approached the greatness of Jimi in either in innovation or just flat-out blues jamming ability.

15 posted on 11/14/2004 6:18:32 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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When you've recorded guitar tracks comparable to the ones on "I Feel Free", "Crossroads" and "Badge" (to take only three beautifully structured and executed examples), let us know, okay?


16 posted on 11/14/2004 6:19:26 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: ConYoungBlack

"I like Eric Clapner. I'm a big fan."

17 posted on 11/14/2004 6:20:10 PM PST by shezza (We will not tire, we will not falter, we will not fail.)
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To: ConYoungBlack

What do you think of James Lee Hooker's sides collected on "Alone" years ago?

Burnin' Hell is probably one of the most haunting riffs I ever heard.


18 posted on 11/14/2004 6:20:50 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: lavrenti

James Lee Hooker - ?????

There should be no comment necessary


19 posted on 11/14/2004 6:21:53 PM PST by ConYoungBlack
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To: Mr. Mojo

Depends on the time period. Hendrix had to work in show bands like the Isleys and King Curtis, which SRV never had to do. A lot of work went into public performance and he had to play a multitude of styles.


20 posted on 11/14/2004 6:22:19 PM PST by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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