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At first when I read this article online, I couldn't understand the tone of where the author was coming from. It sounds surprisingly similar to the views of conservative punks but every now and then there are digs at the party and the mindset. There are "nazi" barbs. He also points out the hypocrisy and failings of the left.

There was no mention of DIY - DO IT YOURSELF. No mention that it was a reaction to the dogmatic liberal Political Correctness of 1960s and 1970s hippies (he just says hippies were lazy).

He does note that it was co-opted the same as sixties rock music was. Note how there was no 1950s politicizing of rock and roll (and intergration was best served by letting people come to love the music and the performers as people). Communists suppressed rock and roll for decades; then they got wise. The American left was into folk singers with THEIR protest songs.

I thought for awhile that I WAS reading Conservative Punk and couldn't understand why SXSW would be promoting a positive conservative punk website.

At the top of the site was this banner:

which reminded of the the old look of ConservativePunk.com.

the redesigned page looks different:


1 posted on 11/05/2004 1:07:35 PM PST by weegee
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To: guinnessboy; 537cant be wrong; Aeronaut; bassmaner; chilepepper; Cutterjohnmhb; Diva Betsy Ross; ...

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2 posted on 11/05/2004 1:13:33 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee
The initial rebellions in Punk were against the sixties hippie culture

That was the whole damn point of punk rock at first, which I am old enough to remember. It was a rebellion against granola-ism and 11-minute guitar solos.

But hey, don't take it from me, take it from an expert, Johnny Ramone:

...the hippie movement which is left-wing. Punks, you identify them if you go back to the fifties and sixties as a bunch of greasers who are more right-wing and anti-peace demonstrations and that kinda stuff. Then suddenly in the punk rock movement you start having these left-wing kids who are really hippies who have become punks but are still really hippies.


3 posted on 11/05/2004 1:15:54 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("He's gone. He's so gone." Nancy Pelosi on George W. Bush, circa May 2004)
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To: MadIvan

aren't you behind "rightgoths"?

If so, read this last parapgraph...


7 posted on 11/05/2004 4:29:53 PM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: weegee
The execrable PBS "documentary" on Rock claimed that Punk Rock was inspired by Reggae/Ska music from Jamaica that was filtered into America via The Clash.

All I remember is The Clash had one decent song off their first album and went downhill after that.

Beverly Hills. Century City.
Everything's so nice and pretty.
Everybody looks the same.
Don't they know they're so damn lame?

All I wanted was a Pepsi, just one Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me, just one Pepsi...
They stuck me in an institution
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself

10 posted on 11/12/2004 7:20:48 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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