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1 posted on 11/04/2004 9:43:38 PM PST by PatriotCheck
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Welcome to Free Republic.

Posting one-line vanity threads and addressing them to every state in the union is frowned upon.


2 posted on 11/04/2004 9:46:21 PM PST by TBarnett34 ("Unnngh!" -John F'n Kerry, 11/2/04)
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To: PatriotCheck

Usually someone has been around a while before they start saying "we".

We need to have Michael Moore run for President in 2008. That way, we can run a houseplant if we want to and still have a comfortable lead.


3 posted on 11/04/2004 9:47:50 PM PST by thoughtomator (The election's over... let's kick some jihadi butt!)
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The Scotsman thinks he's a "superstar."

http://news.scotsman.com/columnists.cfm?id=1242622003


6 posted on 11/05/2004 8:34:18 AM PST by TexVanWinkle (They even like him overseas)
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I'm all for Owens.

How's his marital situation?

8 posted on 11/05/2004 8:49:45 AM PST by NeoCaveman (We have not just 4 more years, but four more Senators too.)
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If there is any Owens-2008 Committee already in place, sign me up. If there isn't, I'd love to help start one.

I believe that Owens is the NEXT REAGAN!


10 posted on 11/05/2004 10:24:11 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: PatriotCheck

Colorado Governor shows us how to run a state
George Will

October 19, 2003


DENVER -- On a credenza in the office of Colorado's governor sits a 1967 photograph of a teenager from Fort Worth. Bill Owens, a congressional page, stands on the U.S. Capitol steps, shaking hands with a congressman from Houston, George Herbert Walker Bush. In 1970, Rep. Bush ran for the U.S. Senate, and Owens, then a college student, ran Students for Bush in East Texas. The campaign aide with whom he worked was a whippersnapper named George W. Bush.

Today it is just 51 months until the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary -- the 2008 caucuses and primary -- and some Republicans are looking to the eastern slope of the Rocky Mountains for a possible candidate to become the 44th president.

Owens, who in 1998 became the first Republican elected governor here since 1970, is in his second and final -- he is term-limited -- four-year term. In 1998 he barely won, 49-48. In 2002 he won a 63-34 landslide. He is 52 and looks younger. He has no political plans. He has three children, hence an incentive to return to the private sector. But his record between 1998 and 2004 will, in 2005, lure many Republicans, aware that National Review calls Owens the nation's best governor, to his door.

His is an economically vibrant and largely urbanized state. Half of all Coloradans live in Denver's metropolitan area; 80 percent live in the Front Range corridor from Boulder to Pueblo. Thanks partly to the flight of high-tech workers from misgoverned California, Colorado has the nation's highest per capita concentration of such workers. It ranks first among the states in percentage of college graduates, third in venture capital per capita and eighth in per capita income (up from 18th in 1990).

Today most state governments have budget crises. Colorado's difficulties are much milder than most. One year ago the Washington-based Cato Institute, a free-market think tank, graded all 50 governors. Owens was one of just two governors --the other was Florida's Jeb Bush -- to receive an A grade.

Since 1992 a voter referendum has been required to raise Colorado's taxes. That has concentrated political minds on maintaining a business-friendly environment to generate revenues. The state's tax climate has facilitated what has been decorously called ``entrepreneurial federalism,'' poaching of businesses from states less hospitable to enterprise.

This has enabled Owens' Colorado, facing education and infrastructure spending needs associated with growth, to avoid the equation of conservatism and parsimony. In the 1990s, Colorado's per capita spending increased 44 percent, faster than in 35 other states. Yet Owens used his line item veto to cut 50 times more spending in his first five years than his immediate predecessors cut in 24 years.

Colorado law restricts the growth of per capita tax revenues to population growth plus inflation. This has prevented the spending or accumulation of surpluses. Instead, there have tax cuts totaling almost $1 billion. To limit the collection of surpluses, Owens cut taxes on income, capital gains, interest, dividends and business property -- and opposed other governors' attempts to impose Internet taxation. And when his ``paycheck protection'' executive order ended the automatic deduction of union dues from state employees' checks, 70 percent of the members left the Colorado Association of Public Employees.

Regarding education, grades K through 12, his school-choice program is even more ambitious than those in Milwaukee, Cleveland and Florida. Parents are given what the Washington-based Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, calls the nation's best report card on every school's performance. Owens says schools are rated on ``more than 400 data points.'' If even a few schools in a district fail, struggling students from low-income families can apply for what will be, when the program is fully implemented, almost 20,000 tuition vouchers redeemable at public or private schools.

If a school fails to meet minimum standards three years in a row, the state replaces the school's management. And to give the new managers maximum latitude, the school becomes a charter school.

On a sparkling morning recently in the Mile High City, Owens stepped out onto the statehouse steps where workmen were moving a marker, the one that designates a particular step as precisely 5,280 feet above sea level. New data shows that the marker belongs a few steps lower. That means Denver is even a bit more elevated than has been thought. Time will tell if that is a metaphor for Owens' political career.



©2003 Washington Post Writers Group

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12 posted on 11/05/2004 10:30:46 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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He's on the list at tradesport.com along with 9 or 10 others.


15 posted on 11/07/2004 2:10:27 PM PST by mombrown1 (Trust in God and our President)
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I DO know that He signed legistlation in Colorado to practically kill gun shows. That is a mark against him in my opinion.


17 posted on 11/08/2004 8:30:13 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (Death to traitors)
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Did you bother reading about what happened to the Republican Pary in CO in the 2004 elections? They lost a US Senate seat and control of both houses of the state legislature. That doesn't help Owens get the Republican nomination for President.


22 posted on 11/14/2004 1:45:26 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Arlen Specter's got to go!)
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Owens is not the best choice.

1) I've heard it through the grapevine that his "separation" has culminated in Owens developing some Clintonian personal problems.

2) Owens is part of the social conservative crowd that likes to talk about "values" a lot. That's all good and well if you practice what you preach. But Owens may not.

3) As far as personal charisma goes, Owens has none. He's not the "next Reagan," as some have said. He's sort of a dorky, wonkish guy. It's not a fair criticism I know, but in this age of television, the guy who looks and talks like Kennedy always seems to beat the guy who looks and talks like Nixon. Why should we chance it?

4) Finally, Owens was supposed to be doing to CO what the Bush Bros. did to TX and FL --- turning it into a solid GOP state. Owens failed miserably. After 6 yrs in power, 2004 was a horrible yr for the CO GOP. We lost an open US Senate seat, a US House seat, and BOTH houses of the legislature. Moreover, GWB just barely won the state by 5 pts, meaning it's now a "swing state" and Democrats will be pouring money into Denver in 2008. It looks like Owens may have given the state back to the Democrats, not exactly the heir to Bush when it comes to building a Republican majority.


24 posted on 11/20/2004 9:40:24 AM PST by DaveDCMetro
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Owens "A great man and leader", you say........??? You gotta be kidding? Really.

Dare to see beyond the Potemkin Village he promotes.

Bill Owens, the takes a stand on nothing governor, the closet governor (in more ways than one), the I never met a developer I didn't like, I love sprawl and have turned my back on those within the agricultural sector within Colorado governor, the let our road network go further to hell, all the while 49 cents on every gallon of gasoline pumped (for road repair) goes to the state without any accountability whatsoever governor. Bill Owens, the fey - limpwristed governor. Yet he knows a bunch of Russian folk songs verbatim governor. Wow.

But, if integrity is worth anything to anyone - which I trust it is as we're supposedly decent and upstanding folk (I am), above all those who are righteous conservatives and spout endless righteousness ad nauseum.............., Bill Owens, the (shhh) I commit adultery against my loving and dedicated wife, in the process betraying the elements of propriety, character, ethics, morals above all betraying my trusting family and if that wasn't enough knocking-up my secretary, having a love child while in office which has been (shhh, again) totally covered-up to make Bill Owens look decent and clean governor.

This scumwad, were he to possess so much as a scintilla of conscience and responsibility would have resigned. Makes James Trafficant and the Clintons almost look clean, by comparison.
I forgot to mention Karl Rove and the Bush presidency and administration, too.........., whew!
The worst thing about so many conservatives these days is the increasing - and v. disturbing sanctimonious and hypocritical posture being demonstrated. Such used to be the near exclusive domain of many a liberal. Not so any more.

(Dare to) wake up and see the forest from the trees.
26 posted on 11/21/2004 6:18:38 AM PST by equinoxranch (Dare to see the truth)
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Not after the disastrous performance of Repulblican candidates in Colorado this year.


27 posted on 11/21/2004 6:31:04 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Arlen Specter's got to go!)
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Sorry to end your discussion this way but...I know Governor Owens and talked to him recently about his interest in the 08 campaign. He is not pursuing it in any way, shape or form, despite the voluminous calls for him to do so. He is content to finish out his term as governor and move into the private sector. He already has 20 years + in state government here. He's tired. Make no mistake however, from my perspective he would be an outstanding candidate for office. Too bad.


28 posted on 12/22/2004 8:38:06 PM PST by mccrories
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Bill Owens could NEVER win the presidency. He isn't NEARLY as popular in Colorado as some would like to believe. Most Republicans I know think the past four years of his governorship have been lackluster and simply tolerate him because there's no alternative. He has been AWOL as a leader in dealing with Colorado's budget issues and hasn't articulated a longterm vision for the state.

I think he would have lost to Salazar in the U.S. Senate race by a larger margin than Coors did. Owens won big in the 2002 Guber race because the Dems were thinking more long term in the state and didn't want to invest a lot of time and money just to lose small instead of big. Owens would have won regardless, but the Dems didn't put much into it, thus the landslide.

Why NOT President Owens? Comparisons likening Owens and Reagan are absurd. First off, Owens is effeminate. He has a weak chin, bug eyes, and an affected manner of speech. He looks and sounds like a wimp. Secondly, the man has little charisma. He comes across as a dork...an effeminate dork. He does have a sense of humor, like Reagan, but unlike Reagan Owens' sense of humor is often abrasive. Reagan would make jokes that everyone could laugh at, even those the jokes were directed at. With Owens the jokes are almost always pointed, and often come across as boorish. Reagan was NEVER like that.

Reagan was a maverick. He had his ranch, his horses, his mystique. He was older, but still in great shape. He was vigorous, handsome and charming. Owens lives in a boring, white bread, suburban neighborhood totally devoid of character. He isn't an outdoorsman or vibrantly athletic. He isn't handsome or charming. Owens' favorite food is Cheerios. No kidding. A George McFly clone for President of the United States?

And Reagan practiced what he preached. Many did not agree with him, but he lived his creed. Owens, on the other hand, is a hypocrite. He barks about family values, but his own marriage is on the ropes and he raised a common criminal. Remember, his teenage son was a vandal who helped cause something like $20,000 in damages. People won't appreciate a man in office who preaches family values but is himself questionable as a husband and father. And didn't his underage daughter get trashed at a public event? Maybe she's 21, but I don't think so. The whole family seems to have issues.
29 posted on 02/27/2005 8:41:23 PM PST by ColoradoMatt
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