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Posted on 11/03/2004 6:16:42 PM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: 2Jedismom

Yeah, it's hard to take cranberries that aren't sweetened anyway. I like cranberry juice, but it's hard to find the unsweetened kind (pure juice) instead of the "cocktail."


4,881 posted on 12/01/2004 10:24:34 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (It's beginning to look a lot like RamaHanuKwanzMas)
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To: g'nad

Consider it an early Christmas present.


4,882 posted on 12/01/2004 10:25:25 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (It's beginning to look a lot like RamaHanuKwanzMas)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I gotta think that's what he was thinking...they're berries and berries are allowed.

Hehehe...


4,883 posted on 12/01/2004 10:29:11 AM PST by 2Jedismom (o\UU/o)
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To: 2Jedismom

we should have increased their rations a few weeks ago... our newbirds from last summer should've been layin' by now, but they've been underfed... we get from 5-7 a day, but when thenewbirds get to layin' we should have a dozen or more...


BBL...


4,884 posted on 12/01/2004 10:33:31 AM PST by g'nad
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To: 2Jedismom; big'ol_freeper
I'm just sittin' in the living room minding my own business the other day when Steve walks in, sits in his recliner and commences to eat cranberry sauce right out of the can! "What are you DOING?" I screamed! (Not really, but it sounds more dramatic.) "What?" says he..."This is low-carb isn't it?" "Steve," says I..."It's JELLY."

LOL! How precious. Sounds like something my sweetie would do. ;)

4,885 posted on 12/01/2004 10:42:00 AM PST by Lil'freeper (Error 404. The page you requested was not found.)
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To: g'nad

Don't forget a light...we have our light set to come on at 1700, go off at 2200, come on at 0600 and go off at 0800. That way they sleep all night. Probably not an issue with you...you could just have it turn on in the evening and turn off in the morning...but it confuses our girls and they lay eggs and bock all night, which I'm afraid'll disturb the neighbors.

Without the light, their bodies know it's winter and they shut down laying...no sense having chicks in the winter. Also, it was the light that finally triggered Jar Jar to start laying! She took forever!


4,886 posted on 12/01/2004 10:45:01 AM PST by 2Jedismom (o\UU/o)
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To: Lil'freeper

I noticed it when he bought it, but didn't say anything about it...thought "A little for Thanksgiving won't kill him." But then he sat down and started really tearing in to it! ROFLOL!!

I don't need to watch comedy on TV, you know it?!


4,887 posted on 12/01/2004 10:47:30 AM PST by 2Jedismom (o\UU/o)
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To: 2Jedismom

4,888 posted on 12/01/2004 11:36:29 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (It's beginning to look a lot like RamaHanuKwanzMas)
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To: ecurbh; Ramius; HairOfTheDog

I need some NW advice. Bush is easing salmon habitat restrictions. The libs are in uproar and I've been in and out of conversation with some on this.

Have y'all heard anything local?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/science/12/01/salmon.plans.ap/index.html


4,889 posted on 12/01/2004 12:01:09 PM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: Rebelbase

Looks like a great and good thing to me. Keep in mind that this has little if anything to do with real science or fisheries management. It's all about politics and power. Much of it is about land use.

Salmon are treated as 'endangered' even though currently we are seeing record salmon runs. Streams and rivers are locked into salmon protection schemes whether they actually are salmon streams or not.

Here's a good place to start:

http://www.buchal.com/hoax.html


4,890 posted on 12/01/2004 12:28:35 PM PST by Ramius (Dah dah dit dit dah dah?)
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To: Rebelbase

My take on this... and I am more of an environmentalist than many on FR, is that the "critical habitat designation" for rivers that do not bear salmon but theoretically ~could~ is silly. There are a lot of rivers that never had salmon in them, and never will, and yet property owners are unable to use their land. So this lifting of restrictions is a good thing. "critical habitat designation" means any creek property that has water in it can't be built on or changed in any way within a hundred feet of the bank. I have a friend who owns treed property on a Chum salmon-bearing creek (not a threatened run, a healthy one). Her house is crammed at the far end of her lot by the road, and she can't even build a picnic spot, gazebo or deck within view of the creek below. Homesites near rivers isn't what kills salmon!

Here's the main point. Salmon are not endangered. There is this great deceptive dialogue and it is hard to sort through, but there are lots of fish, it's just that they are refusing to count hatchery fish as part of those numbers, even though they were caught from and are the exact same fish on the same creek where they are seeing few 'wild fish' survive. They can have a hundred thousand salmon returning to the hatchery on a particular creek, and yet declare the entire coastline off limits or restricted to fishing, and eliminate any activity near the river, all to save the 'wild' cousins in a particular creek with a healthy hatchery population 5 miles downstream. They are the same fish!

There are benefits to smart development and protection of rivers, but as always, the silliness can take over. I'd say somewhere in the middle is the right answer.


4,891 posted on 12/01/2004 12:30:33 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

mmmmmmmmmm.....salmon.....

Speaking of which, when do they run again? I believe I just missed it, right? You posted pics not too long ago.


4,892 posted on 12/01/2004 1:02:40 PM PST by RMDupree (HHD: My heart remains in Washington, volcano or no volcano....)
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To: RMDupree

Each group in each river has it's own timing, and there may be different species that run at various times. The Deschutes where I have taken pictures has an early fall and I think also a Spring Chinook run.


4,893 posted on 12/01/2004 1:06:58 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; Ramius

I'm not sure if I have mentioned this before, but I've never been salmon fishing. ;~)


4,894 posted on 12/01/2004 1:13:54 PM PST by ecurbh () | () | ()
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I've never been salmon fishing...

but I kinda like the music...

4,895 posted on 12/01/2004 1:22:19 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (It's beginning to look a lot like RamaHanuKwanzMas)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Fish... bleah...

Ugh, home. Got to get to the store before the sun goes down and the melt freezes. Then homework. Bleargh.


4,896 posted on 12/01/2004 1:43:03 PM PST by JenB
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To: Corin Stormhands
I grilled it...


4,897 posted on 12/01/2004 1:43:06 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (It's beginning to look a lot like RamaHanuKwanzMas)
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To: JenB

I'm watching the clock. Have a 6 p.m. cast call. Show at 7:30. We have a full audience tonite.


4,898 posted on 12/01/2004 1:44:00 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (It's beginning to look a lot like RamaHanuKwanzMas)
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To: Corin Stormhands

salmon spam...


4,899 posted on 12/01/2004 1:44:46 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (It's beginning to look a lot like RamaHanuKwanzMas)
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To: Corin Stormhands

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4,900 posted on 12/01/2004 1:44:55 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (It's beginning to look a lot like RamaHanuKwanzMas)
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