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The Hobbit Hole XVII - A new road or a secret gate...
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Posted on 11/03/2004 6:16:42 PM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

A new road or a secret gate...

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: ExGeeEye

indeed!

I recited that one in particukar because I was cold :-) My toes never really did warm up.


3,321 posted on 11/23/2004 5:19:55 AM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: msdrby
Grrr...particukar

Particular

3,322 posted on 11/23/2004 5:23:53 AM PST by msdrby (remind me to drink more water... and less coffee)
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To: Lil'freeper; ExGeeEye; JenB; Alkhin; Corin Stormhands; Overtaxed; 2Jedismom; HairOfTheDog; ...

Good morning!

Faux Friday for me, too! Woo-hoo!

I'm still not sure how Thanksgiving is gonna pan out. We're going to have the meal that day...but Dad doesn't get off work until seven in the evening, so it'll be interesting. And Bilbo and I will pretty much be doing all the preparation.


3,323 posted on 11/23/2004 5:32:31 AM PST by RosieCotton (He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative. - GKC)
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To: Lil'freeper; ExGeeEye; g'nad; RosieCotton; JenB; Overtaxed; 2Jedismom; HairOfTheDog
Christmas tree and other decorations are ready to go. Bring on the holidays- I'm *ORGANIZED*.

Please don't take this personally, but just for the record...

I hate you.

3,324 posted on 11/23/2004 6:00:01 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (All I want for Christmas is a red Swingline stapler...)
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To: Corin Stormhands

LOL! Good morning everyone!

Maybe I will decorate the Christmas plant today ;~D


3,325 posted on 11/23/2004 6:03:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: Corin Stormhands

((((( CORIN )))))


3,326 posted on 11/23/2004 6:13:54 AM PST by Lil'freeper (Error 404. The page you requested was not found.)
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To: HairOfTheDog; Lil'freeper
Maybe I will decorate the Christmas plant today ;~D

Sigh...I love the Christmas season. And I love all the stuff that goes along with it.

But there are days I miss being on the campaign trail (or usually the job hunt trail by December) when the only decorations I had to worry about was a cardboard Snoopy Christmas tree stuck to the dash of my Honda Civic...

But don't mind me. I'm just feeling the effects of bad ordering decisions last night.

At least I know now why they call that Margarita a "Category 5." And I'm just not sure why we ever thought alcohol and desserts were a good combination...

3,327 posted on 11/23/2004 6:17:06 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (All I want for Christmas is a red Swingline stapler...)
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To: Lil'freeper

Heh...actually, I'm better organized than most years. Plus, our usual problem is not having the hous ready to decorate by the time the show starts.

This year we're having company for Thanksgiving, so we're forced to have the house ready (we're almost there).

And Friday, Jr. is on schedule to help me get out the Christmas stuff. There may be limited purchasing required (new bulbs for the plastic holy family, etc.) But I'm in pretty good shape otherwise.


3,328 posted on 11/23/2004 6:19:03 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (All I want for Christmas is a red Swingline stapler...)
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To: Corin Stormhands
At which point did you start crying?

You mean, which POINTS?

The charge of the Rohirrim at sunrise?

Or the coronation of Aragorn, and his reunion with Arwen?

Or the breaking of the Fellowship at The Havens?

Or seeing The King bow in honor to the Halflings?

The whole epic was full of such moments, for me!

3,329 posted on 11/23/2004 6:27:15 AM PST by The Flying Dutchman (Searching for Landfall...)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Whoops - see Post 3329 for my reply...


3,330 posted on 11/23/2004 6:27:55 AM PST by The Flying Dutchman (Searching for Landfall...)
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To: The Flying Dutchman
Or seeing The King bow in honor to the Halflings?

Yep, when Aragorn said "My friends, you bow to no one," that was a definite kleenex moment...

3,331 posted on 11/23/2004 6:29:33 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (All I want for Christmas is a red Swingline stapler...)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I understand (intellectually) that Saruman and "The Scouring of the Shire" had to be removed for time - but what a thing to carve out....


3,332 posted on 11/23/2004 6:32:07 AM PST by The Flying Dutchman (Searching for Landfall...)
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To: The Flying Dutchman

Yeah, we've talked about that. I think we may see more of Saruman in the EE. But there's no scouring.


3,333 posted on 11/23/2004 6:35:35 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (All I want for Christmas is a red Swingline stapler...)
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

I would have saved the threes for you 'til the end...


3,334 posted on 11/23/2004 6:38:40 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (It's beginning to look a lot like RamaHanuKwanzMas)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I know The Professor hated allegories in his works, but there's a big one, there.

It's what every soldier dreads: that they come home victorious from the war, to find their home in ruins.

That's what The Left's seems to be trying so hard to do...


3,335 posted on 11/23/2004 6:40:00 AM PST by The Flying Dutchman (Searching for Landfall...)
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To: The Flying Dutchman
It's amazing how much he hated the allegories when there are so many in the books. I've mentioned this before (but around here that rarely stops us), but I did my freshman research paper on "The Christlike Symbolism in The Lord of the Rings"...

Frodo the Deliverer
Gandalf the Resurrected
Aragorn the Triumphant King

Gots me an "A" I did...

3,336 posted on 11/23/2004 6:42:41 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (It's beginning to look a lot like RamaHanuKwanzMas)
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To: The Flying Dutchman
I understand (intellectually) that Saruman and "The Scouring of the Shire" had to be removed for time - but what a thing to carve out....

I don't miss the scouring... but Saruman could have been handled better instead of that long Smeagol/Deagol thing at the beginning of ROTK...If that needed to be shown, (and I am not sure it did) it could have been somewhere else as exposition about Gollum. Or Saruman could have been done instead of Gollum's teaser scene about leading Frodo to Shelob at the end of TTT. That was anticlimactic and would have been better as an opener to RoTK.

I hardly ever criticize PJ, I love the stuff, but I can't stand the Smeagol/Deagol thing with the fight and the strange portrayal of Smeagol becoming Gollum as if it was some kind of werewolf-like metamorphosis instead of just the slow decay of years.

< /PJ Bash >

3,337 posted on 11/23/2004 6:43:47 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I can recall what The Professor himself said:

"If I wrote the epic as real life, then the Ring would have been seized and used against Sauron; the Dark Tower would not have been destroyed, but occupied; a new Dark Lord would have arisen; Saruman would have found the missing elements of Ring-lore in the confusion; and hobbits would have been enslaved by both sides, not being trusted by either."

Not a direct quote, but gistful...


3,338 posted on 11/23/2004 6:46:23 AM PST by The Flying Dutchman (Searching for Landfall...)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Now me, I personally liked the schizoid conversation between Smeagol and Gollum in TTT. I thought it was a wonderful device!

I agree that we could have done without the Deagol/Smeagol scene. Time better used on another chapter.

Pippin and the palantir was okay! It was the proper unseen dread that the book had.


3,339 posted on 11/23/2004 6:52:03 AM PST by The Flying Dutchman (Searching for Landfall...)
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To: The Flying Dutchman
Now me, I personally liked the schizoid conversation between Smeagol and Gollum in TTT. I thought it was a wonderful device!

Agreed! I loved that too.

If I could chop the movie up the way I'd like, it seems like during the conversation in TTT between Frodo and Gollum, where Frodo says the name "Smeagol" and causes Gollum to remember his name.... That would have been a much better place to stick in the flashback to the Deagol fight.

3,340 posted on 11/23/2004 6:56:35 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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