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Opinion: Polls don't ad up

Posted on 11/01/2004 6:32:04 AM PST by Jacobis

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To: no dems

what do you guys think of the redskins factor? the last 18 elections, the redskins on the side of the incumbent winning and losing? i'm not superstititous but what's up with that?


21 posted on 11/01/2004 7:18:43 AM PST by buragwak (idolbush)
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To: no dems

Agree 100%


22 posted on 11/01/2004 7:26:16 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Ignorance, bigotry, envy, and gluttony are a few floor joists in the democratic platform.)
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To: Jacobis

First of all , these polls only take in a small sample.
My recollection is that it alway looks about 2-3 percentage
points worse for the Repubs. in these polls. I am careful
to be optimistic,but I have few friends who actually like
Kerry. They either hate Bush, cause they think he cheated
to get President (electorally challenged folk), or they
like the U.S. government to be planning their life for them
so they can spend their time on the pleasures of life
before they die. But by far, almost 75 to 25, my friends go
for Bush....I also have another observation. I was recently in
a town known for its liberal "democratic" ambience. There
was a small parade of people demonstrating against Bush
walking down the main street. Most people didn't even bother
to yell in agreement, or honk or whistle or anything. They
didn't even pay attention. Back in the 60's this kind of
"ho-hum" attitude for a cause would not occur. I don't see
the overt hatred that I remember seeing for Lyndon Johnson,
or Hubert Humphrey where everyone was angry. This looks like
a bunch of loud folks who are afraid their governmental
meal ticket is gonna be taken away (and they forgot to
plan ahead).

So, I too, don't know why the polls have it so close. However
there is no accounting for bad taste. Consider some fast
food hamburger joints, MTV, etc....


23 posted on 11/01/2004 7:32:19 AM PST by Getready ((...Fear not ...))
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To: buragwak

All pre 9/11. Maybe it takes a 9/11 for folks to realize
that we were under attack since 1984 bombing of
Beirut Marines.
1978?American Embassy Staff taken Hostage in Iran
1993 World Trade Towers bombing
1996 Khobar Towers
1996? Somalia
1997 Two U.S. embassies in Africa
1999 U.S.S Cole

Can anyone say Duh? I think it should be obvious that the
attacks against us accelerated in the 90's. This has
nothing to do with Washington's pro football team.


24 posted on 11/01/2004 7:40:01 AM PST by Getready ((...Fear not ...))
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To: Getready

get ready,

you're not commenting on my post. also, do not use that PARTIAL terrorist attacks arguments. the left will kill you on that. where did you get these historical dates, from rush? Rush is fine but he tends to be too partial. Check these out. the left will give this to you and be prepared for a discussion or comparison. terrorist attacks are not a monopoly of the democratic administrations. by the way, you forgot the oklahoma bombing during clinton:

Reagan and George HW years:
1982–1991
Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was held for 2,454 days.

1983
April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.


Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 Marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut.


Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait Shiite truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.

1984
Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military.
Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. Two Americans killed.

1985
April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.
Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to Libya.
Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.


1986
April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9.
April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.

1988
Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims' families.


Clinton:

1993
Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.

1995
April 19, Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue effort. Over 220 buildings sustained damage. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols later convicted in the antigovernment plot to avenge the Branch Davidian standoff in Waco, Tex., exactly two years earlier. (See Miscellaneous Disasters.)


Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing five U.S. military servicemen.

1996
June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. Thirteen Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.

1998
Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. Four men connected with al-Qaeda two of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.


George W Bush:

2000
Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. Seventeen sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.

2001
Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed two commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; two more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.)

2002
June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb exploded outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

2003
May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers killed 34, including eight Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.

2004
May 29–31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American.
June 11–19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.


25 posted on 11/01/2004 8:23:29 AM PST by buragwak (idolbush)
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To: buragwak

I'm not superstitious. This is the year to break that "curse". It has been around since 1936; 68 years. This year, the Red Sox broke the curse of 86 years.

Bush will defy this thing this time. The odds are in our favor.


26 posted on 11/01/2004 9:07:41 AM PST by no dems (NICE GUYS FINISH LAST. GET RADICAL !!!)
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